Posted on 01/10/2011 10:22:46 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian
The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from a lawyer who has been in the forefront of the challenge to President Barack Obama's citizenship.
The high court on Monday did not comment in refusing to hear the appeal filed by California lawyer and dentist Orly Taitz. She was contesting a $20,000 fine for filing what a federal judge determined was a frivolous lawsuit.
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The truth is Obama has been politely asked by ordinary citizens and a few military officers to prove with **all** the **best** evidence that he is a natural born citizen.
The truth is that this **best** evidence consists of **common** documents that ordinary Americans routinely release for many reasons far less important than being president of the United States of America.
The truth is Obama refused and spent considerable private and tax dollars to prevent the release of this best evidence.
The American people ( even the “Tingle” Chrissy Matthews) are asking, “Why?” and “What's going on here?”
Mr. Obama is losing BIG TIME in the most important court of all: The court of public opinion.
If he filed an actual LEGAL birth certificate in the court, it would strengthen a judge's reasoning for rejecting a case AND it would discourage others from filing similar cases. We wouldn't have had 80 cases filed had he just been the transparent person he pledged to be from the beginning. There's an OBVIOUS reason why he won't show the alleged COLB in a court of law, so it's time to quit making unnecessary excuses.
The Republican administration, as you call it consists of Linda Lingle and Chiyome Fukino. Lingle made a couple of comments on a radio show a long time AFTER the controversy had been around. Fukino made three very carefully worded public statements that each avoided declaring Obama's alleged COLB to be legitimate. This is neither a 'vigorous' defense of original birth records or the legitimacy of Obama's alleged COLB ... far from it.
I was going to ask why such personal insults, too, but Wintertime beat me to it. Wow, TOC, that is one mean, negative post. Do you really think it advances the discussion? I thought we were supposed to make it personal.
The COLB is proof of nothing here in GA. I went to the DMV with a current, valid MA driver’s license and proof of my move to GA. I was told to get lost, and not to come back without an official, raised-seal copy of my original long form BC. I was told that that ***alone*** would be accepted. My son was told exactly the same thing.
You’re quick!
You asked for an example of a state where only an original long form BC is accepted. I gave you one, for not from one but two personal first hand experiences. I was there. I know what I and my son were told [on separate visits, with different DMV workers]. I went through no end of trouble to comply with the rules. You’re not satisfied; you never will be. Unless and until you try to get a driver’s license here in GA, stop telling me I don’t know what I’m talking about. I do; you don’t.
[Incidentally, I DID speak to the supervisor. It is a LONG drive from where I live to the nearest DMV, where I waited over an hour to see a clerk. It made no sense to me that my valid MA license was rejected out of hand, so I politely asked to speak to the super. I got the bum’s rush from said authority. Take your quibbles to someone who wants to hear them. You don’t interest me because you don’t know what you’re talking about.]
“I was told to get lost, and not to come back without an official, raised-seal copy of my original long form BC. I was told that that ***alone*** would be accepted.”
That is a quote from my post at 86. I guess you either didn’t bother even to read it, or you read it but couldn’t understand it. The supervisor backed the clerk to the hilt, and confirmed that this was the ONLY documentation I could return with if I wanted a GA driver’s license.
If you’re so concerned about personal insults, you should examine your own posting history more carefully.
As a legal professional, I find self-righteous, willful ignorance of the law insulting to anyone with a brain. Sometimes it needs to be called what it is.
So how do you explain the fact that the Georgia DDS website says something different?
Here's what I think: they told you that you needed a raised-seal copy of your birth certificate, and you assumed they meant the long-form one, when in fact a short form (if official and with a seal) would do as well.
So what happened, anyway? Do you have a Georgia driver's license now? What did Massachusetts send you?
So you defend being insulting and making it personal. Okay.
This all started with the fact that too many people have no clue as to current birth documentation practices. They think that the paper copy their parents got 30-40 years ago is some immutable standard. They don't realize that immutable standard always varied between states.
They also don't realize that states have simply taken that record information and transcribed it into a data base. You know, the whole computer thing. A COLB is simply a print out of the relevant fields from a data base derived from the original record. So your COLB says what it says only because that's what the original record said.
My state no longer gives me the long form unless I fill out a special form and pay more to request it. There's no reason to do so, as the COLB satisfies legal requirements.
Things are not as Wintertime wants them to be. Wintertime cannot accept this and cannot seem to grasp that there may be a reason for this other than Winter's own believed reason.
If Winter wants to get all insulted when someone points this out, that's their problem.
I think when people repeatedly bleat nonsense, they should not expect it be treated with respect. And again, if you think that was highly personal, you’ve not spent much time on these threads.
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