Posted on 01/06/2011 8:04:22 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
PHILADELPHIA — Before winning became the only thing for Vince Lombardi, it remained for a brief period an elusive thing.
On Dec. 26, 1960, Lombardi experienced his only playoff defeat with Green Bay as his Packers lost to the Eagles, 17-13, in the N.F.L. championship game. Fifty years later, the teams will meet here Sunday in a wild-card matchup.
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Was that “Run to Daylight?”
Good story.
Actually, the Packers lost to the Colts (Tom Matte @ QB) in a playoff in 1965. However, the game was given to them by the worst call in NFL history.
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How old are you?...Sorry to hear about how those two late FG’s messed up things for you. Bart’s jock couldn’t be carried by the ‘great’ Johnny U. Okay........tell this ancient one here...who can get with Bart/Hornung/Taylor in one backfield? First clue sonny......none of the monkey dancing after a 3 yard run kids are not even close today. The NFL is now just a group of murdering, dancing, tat kids who are just a joke compared to the old NFL. Otto G. number one,......Jimmy Brown number two. look it up sonny. I was there....I’m old... I saw it...up close. You kids....my God...
0 “late FGs”. Chandler missed the game tying one, there should have been no OT. And he only got to attempt that because of a very questionable roughing the passer call against Billy Ray Smith.
At least you remember Starr. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves anymore.
This lifelong Packer fan nods in agreement. I thought the Pack was awarded 3 points on a clearly missed field goal. Cost the Colts the game. Bad call. But it made me mighty happy at the time. Matte played a helluva game that day.
“Actually, the Packers lost to the Colts (Tom Matte @ QB) in a playoff in 1965. However, the game was given to them by the worst call in NFL history.”
Then I guess you would also say that the Colts lost to the Giants in 1958 when a very bad spot of the ball denied Giant’s halfback Frank Gifford the game winning first down he had clearly made.
And then of course there’s the Tom Brady fumble that wasn’t in Foxboro, MA in January 2002.
There seem to be many different “worst calls in NFL history”, depending on which team you are rooting for.
Remember how many snaps from center Starr took from/in that game? One, or one only...one before Zeke came in iirc. So the Pack played all the way thru with a back up at QB. Zeke B. as QB?????? So that is at least a push with Unitas at QB. Best QB ever.....BART STARR!!!!!! Case closed as Archie Bunker used to say!!!! Ain’t the ‘hot stove’ great!!!???>
I dunno, Joe Montana was pretty darn good at QB! For reading defenses, you could make the case that Peyton Manning is the best active QB.
Good post.
You might be right. Us old timers hang onto Otto G...Sammy Baugh...Layne and then Starr as best ever. Just a thing between generations I guess. Joe M. great? yes as you say. Very well could be the best ever. These new kids? they did not/have nor not had to face a rush from the defense......without serious consequences since Deac and the rest in the mid/late sixties. The ‘Doomsday’ ‘The Purple People Eaters’, The Fearsome Foursome defenses, and the then rules, really stuck it to the Off.
Blasphemy! If Johnny U were playing in the league, in his physical prime, today, with Raymond Berry, he'd be throwing for 5000 yards and fifty touchdowns a season.
Bart was a great quarterback, but even Lombardi conceded that he had nowhere near the physical gifts of even Sonny Jurgensen.
Not sure just what the heck you are speaking about because in the 1965 Playoff Bowl (officially, the Bert Bell Benefit Bowl) it was Tom Matte leading the Colts in a 35-3 win over my Dallas Cowboys.
From http://www.mmbolding.com/BSR/Playoff_Bowl_1966_Baltimore_Colts_vs_Dallas_Cowboys.htm: "In the Playoff Bowl, Matte was sensational. He threw two touchdown passes to Jimmy Orr (15 and 20 yards) and totaled 165 yards passing on the day. The Colts were also paced by Jerry Hill's 89 yards and two touchdown rushing performance. Matte was voted the game's MVP. The Colts' defense, led by rookie end Roy Hilton and linebacker Steve Stonebreaker, throttled the passing combination of Don Meredith and fleet Bob Hayes and recovered two Dallas fumbles for the one-sided triumph over the Cowboys, who were 3 point favorites."
However, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playoff_Bowl, Vince's Packers did lose to the St. Louis Cards in the 1965 Playoff Bowl 24-17.
Full coverage of that games is at http://www.mmbolding.com/BSR/Playoff_Bowl_1965_St._Louis_Cardinals_vs_Green_Bay_Packers.htm and, sorry, big, there it also says: In sports encyclopedias and television documentaries, it often says about Lombardi, "The only playoff game he ever lost was his first one, in 1960; he never lost another postseason game." But, this is not true. He lost in the 1965 Playoff Bowl or, as he called it, "a rinky dink game.'"
Never knew that.
Now to more important things...
Go Pack, Go111 Whip ‘em Turkeys!
great quote
Am I the only one that thinks the Times’ use of periods in N.F.L or I.B.M. is really annoying?
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