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Hmong leader Vang Pao dies
Fresno Bee ^ | 1/6/2011 | Cyndee Fontana and Alex Tavlian

Posted on 01/06/2011 7:07:06 PM PST by markomalley

Gen. Vang Pao, an iconic figure in the Hmong community and a key U.S. ally during the Vietnam War, died today in Clovis.

Vang, 81, was admitted to Clovis Community Medical Center on Dec. 26. Vang apparently was admitted shortly after making his annual appearance at the Hmong International New Year event at the Fresno Fairgrounds.

Charlie Waters, a friend and veterans advocate in Fresno, said Vang was suffering from pneumonia and an ongoing heart problem.

Vang is revered by many as a father figure and leader who helped bring and settle the Hmong community into American life.

But he also has been controversial -- federal authorities in 2007 charged him and 10 others with conspiring to violently overthrow communist Laos. Charges against Vang were dropped in 2009.

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Born in December 1929 to farmers in a Laotian village, he became a teenage translator for French paratroopers fighting the Japanese in Laos during World War II.

Vang was selected to train at a French officers' school in Vietnam and became a commissioned officer in the French army. Laotian leaders made Vang a general, even though the Hmong were a small ethnic minority in the country.

In 1961, Vang was recruited by the Central Intelligence Agency to lead a secret army of Hmong soldiers against Laotian communists and their North Vietnamese counterparts using routes through Laos to supply their troops.

When the war ended and U.S. forces pulled out of Vietnam, communists in Laos persecuted the Hmong. More than 300,000 Laotian refugees -- most of them Hmong -- began a treacherous journey to reach Thai refugee camps.

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: California
KEYWORDS: hmong; obituary; vangpao; vietnam
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Rest in peace General
1 posted on 01/06/2011 7:07:09 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Oh, crap....

It’ll be a day of mourning at work, tomorrow.

The phone should be ringing in a couple of minutes to ask me to cover for those related to the dearly departed.

Phone. Disconnected.


2 posted on 01/06/2011 7:13:20 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Monthly Donors Welcome.)
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To: markomalley

Vang Pao and his people fought for the United States, and to our great shame we abandoned them to the Communist.

Some survived the ordeal. Most died.

Yes, rest in peace General.


3 posted on 01/06/2011 7:13:53 PM PST by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: markomalley

The guy fought the Japs and the Commies. He’s OK in my book.


4 posted on 01/06/2011 7:14:48 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: markomalley

What’s controversial with trying to overthrow an oppressive communist government in Laos? Or is it controversial only to communist newspapers in the U.S.?


5 posted on 01/06/2011 7:15:39 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: markomalley

koj mus koj


6 posted on 01/06/2011 7:15:46 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: markomalley

Not to diminish Vang Pao, but does everybody realize that Vo Nguyen Giap is still alive? He will turn 100 in August. I know he is a commie, but you got to give the devil his due. He beat the United States with a stone age economy (flame my hyperbole if you must). One of the great military/political minds in history. Ronald Reagan turns 100 next month. Not too shabby in the ‘great political minds’ was he, also.


7 posted on 01/06/2011 7:17:18 PM PST by fhayek
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To: PanzerKardinal

The Serbs helped us in WWII also. Remember what Clinton did to them?


8 posted on 01/06/2011 7:19:50 PM PST by sport
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To: markomalley

RIP.


9 posted on 01/06/2011 7:29:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fhayek
...He beat the United States with a stone age economy (flame my hyperbole if you must)...

Not flaming your hyperbole, I'm flaming your statement that he beat the US. He didn't.

10 posted on 01/06/2011 7:32:48 PM PST by FReepaholic
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To: IrishCatholic
We had a deal with the government in Laos. Still, after the Democrats forced the abandonment of South East Asia to Commie killers, I think we should have considered that deal broken.

BTW, there's still a human rights abuser in the Congress ~ Senator Patrick Leahy. He claims his first vote in the Senate was to defund our allies. At some point we have to remember to hold a war crimes trial for this guy ~

11 posted on 01/06/2011 7:38:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: fhayek
Giap is one of histories total losers ~ and a murderer of millions of innocent people to boot.

I'd like to waterboard the old boy to see if he can, in fact, tell the truth. I think he'd fail!

12 posted on 01/06/2011 7:40:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: FReepaholic

He played the U.S. like a fiddle. He used our left wing against us like a maestro. He beat the U.S. The only man in history who every did. That is until Obama was elected.


13 posted on 01/06/2011 7:48:16 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Free Vulcan

I know a sweet Hmong girl who was born in Hawaii right after evacuation from Laos. Great person and patriot to this country!!!!!! Better than a lot of Caucasian commie Americans and smarter, too. Love immigrants like her family. RIP.


14 posted on 01/06/2011 7:50:26 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: LeoWindhorse
koj mus koj

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Babe, koj thiaj yog tus uas kuv hlub nyob rau tiam n

Thaum kuv nrhug koj mus koj yeej yog tus kuv nco

Koj ib leeg thiaj yog tus kuv tshua lub neej no

15 posted on 01/06/2011 7:53:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: fhayek
He beat the United States with a stone age economy (flame my hyperbole if you must).

Giap the general did most certainly NOT beat the U.S. on the battlefield. The U.S. lost the newsprint battle. But the U.S. kicked his ass on the battlefield.

I'll grant that the old codger is a tough old bird, but he's hardly one of the great military minds of the 20th century. He masterminded the ~disaster~ that was the Tet Offensive. General Giap gave a great interview, maybe 15 or so years ago now, where he admitted that the Tet offensive was almost their last act. The NVA was so thoroughly wiped out during Tet, that they effectively had no capability to make war anymore. They were so convinced of their imminent loss that they were making plans for their imminent surrender, or perhaps a negotiated peace.

It wasn't until they started seeing the coverage by the U.S. media (especially Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite) that the party leadership realized that their only hope was to take the battle to the media, through the U.S. anti-war movement.

16 posted on 01/06/2011 7:53:53 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: archy; SLB; sneakypete

BTTT....


17 posted on 01/06/2011 7:56:20 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: fhayek
He played the U.S. like a fiddle.

He punished the Pathet Lao on the Plain of Jars for us, when we had no one else who would. I admire the Hmong, tough little soldiers. He was their leader (for good & bad) and he was our ally. The Hmong and a few of our "spooks" were effective then.

18 posted on 01/06/2011 8:00:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: PanzerKardinal

“Not one of our finer moments”


19 posted on 01/06/2011 8:05:19 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Texas Fossil

During the rainy season of 1969, Vang Pao abandoned the use of guerrilla tactics and launched a major offensive against the NVA/Pathet Lao forces, using the increased airpower to support a drive against enemy positions on the Plain of Jars . Operation About Face was a huge success. The Hmong reclaimed the entire Plain of Jars for the first time since 1960, capturing 1,700 tons of food, 2,500 tons of ammunition, 640 heavy weapons, and 25 Soviet PT-76 tanks.


20 posted on 01/06/2011 8:06:56 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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