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White House attempts to quiet revived talk of 'death panels'
the hill ^ | 12/27/10 | Jason Millman

Posted on 12/28/2010 3:35:57 PM PST by Nachum

The Obama administration is trying to quiet talk about so-called “death panels” after The New York Times reported Sunday that a new Medicare regulation includes incentives for end-of-life-care planning.

The Medicare policy will pay doctors for holding end-of-life-care discussions with patients, according to the Times. A similar provision was dropped from the new healthcare reform law after Republicans accused the administration of withholding care from the sick, elderly and disabled.

However, an administration spokesman said the regulation, which is less specific than the reform law's draft language, is actually a continuation of a policy enacted under former President George W. Bush.

"The only thing new here is a regulation allowing the discussions … to happen in the context of the new annual wellness visit created by [healthcare reform]," Obama spokesman Reid Cherlin told The Wall Street Journal.

In 2003, Medicare added a consultation visit for seniors new to the program, according to the Journal. Another 2008 law, enacted under Bush, said the visit can include “end-of-life” planning discussions.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: death; house; panels; white

1 posted on 12/28/2010 3:36:00 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 12/28/2010 3:36:41 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

It looks like we are going to be going back to “Turn in your neighbor to the SS for badmouthing obamacare” again.

Ah, so good to see the golden 1940’s Germany environment again...


3 posted on 12/28/2010 3:38:17 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: Nachum

http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/12/28/the-return-of-the-death-panels-and-the-democrats-want-to-keep-it-hush-hush/


4 posted on 12/28/2010 3:39:45 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

He’s gonna death panel the death panel talkers.


5 posted on 12/28/2010 3:45:51 PM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Nachum

Then why throw it out there?


6 posted on 12/28/2010 3:50:30 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nachum

Then all of us should SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN and then OVER AGAIN!! Death Panels are exactly what they are!!! Scream it loud and clear for all to hear.


7 posted on 12/28/2010 3:50:54 PM PST by cubreporter ( Trust Rush and you won't go wrong.)
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To: freekitty

And yet again it’s “blame Bush”......I’m so sick of this punk I could scream........


8 posted on 12/28/2010 3:55:10 PM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: Nachum

If Bush did it too, then that proves it’s a totalitarian plot.


9 posted on 12/28/2010 4:09:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Nachum
The Medicare policy will pay doctors for holding end-of-life-care discussions with patients

The end-of-life counseling is not the "death panel". That was never the intent of the remark, this was the evasion.

The bureaucrat who defines which treatments will be available to you and which ones will not, this is your "death panel". The formula by which based on age and quality of life and cost of procedure some dweeb writing regulations decides the treatment you need is not on the menu of treatments available to you, this is the "death panel".

10 posted on 12/28/2010 4:28:37 PM PST by marron
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To: Nachum

Mark Belling covered this extensively in his first hour on Rush’s show yesterday. Callers were quite livid and quite upset.


11 posted on 12/28/2010 4:28:50 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Nachum

Don’t doubt Sarah. She is right, again.


12 posted on 12/28/2010 4:31:26 PM PST by JPG (A new wind is sweeping across America and we call the wind, Sarah.)
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The purpose of "end of life" counseling is to bully and browbeat the elderly and infirm to refuse care. The bureaucrats want to make them feel selfish for availing themselves of the pain-lessening and life extending miracles of modern medicine. Monies saved by sending the elderly to premature death will be used for MEDICAID, a massive transfer to the 20 million illegals Obama and the Dem's. plan to amnesty in order to create a massive dependent subproeletariat of Democrat voters. Early in the Obamacare debate, Obama begrudged the end of life treatment given his own grandmother, the woman who raised him. What can the rest of us expect?
13 posted on 12/28/2010 4:51:02 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Nachum

The Dem’s removed the Death Panel legistation in order to add it back at a later time, that way it didn’t exsit until now. Palin was right on the mark over a year ago on this topic. The Dem’s have mandated this as determining factor and under Bush it “could” be a “consideration”. There is a difference between making it mandatory part of the ObamaCare and being something people could consider with doctors....


14 posted on 12/28/2010 4:57:21 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Nachum

Next, they’ll try to slip public funding of abortion in the same way. Who needs laws passed by congress when you control the bureaucracies and can force them to dictate your ideology?


15 posted on 12/28/2010 5:58:50 PM PST by lwd
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To: Jumper

It was in the legislation in 2008 passed by the Dims, and vetoed by Bush then overridden by the Dims.

So, true it was enacted during Bush - but again the WH lies lies lies.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 6:16:11 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: lwd
Baby killing and senior killing are included...

That's Ol' Scratch at his finest...

SCRD-200smUncle Scratch

17 posted on 12/28/2010 6:23:38 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Nachum

Medicare will PAY doctors to discuss end of life plans with patients. I am assuming that the more patients that choose to simply die, the more money the doctor will get, right? Talk about using the medical profession as paid assassins. Any good doctor will discuss with a patient what treatments are available, the outcome of the procedures and allow the person (with his or her family) to make decisions. A unscrupulous doctor may “talk” a person into NOT having a procedure knowing full well that the treatment would either save their life or at least extend it. This is very frightening to me. IMHO


18 posted on 12/28/2010 7:36:56 PM PST by momtothree
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