NYT article =Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir (Medicare Death panels start Jan. 1)
Posted on 12/26/2010 12:38:19 PM PST by bobsunshine
“Some sort of guidelines need to be established for public care.”
Obamacare is making all care “public care”.
Further, IMHO the one group that deserves public help with healthcare are the elderly, as they are weak and can no longer work (in many cases).
NYT article =Obama Returns to End-of-Life Plan That Caused Stir (Medicare Death panels start Jan. 1)
The lie is how they deny it. They say there is nothing called “death panels,” so Sarah is either stupid or aqn extremist. The left acts like shady lawyers- they know what they are pushing is NOT supported by ordinary Joes and Janes, so they use strawmen and half truths to deny and mock.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ye9kwzc
It now looks like Sarah was right after all.
The one drug ObamaCare will always fund.
This 2,000 page bill will generate 5 to 10 times as many pages of regulations. Many will be program specific and many will be over arching. I last posted the below to an article on the editorial page of our paper and received the comments that I was a moron and should face a terrble retribution before God for all those babies I killed in Vietnam. Therefore, there must be some value in what I presented.
The U.K. Telegraph and others awarded Sarah Palin a prize for telling the greatest political lie of 2009. In fact her following statement discloses one of many deceits within health care legislation. Next follows an explanation of how this outcome will be realized.
“The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.”
Her anxiety arises from seeing hordes of new bureaucracies provide the framework for boundless regulatory masterpieces eroding human freedoms. The stimulus bill created the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology and the Health Information Technology Research Centers. These bureaucracies duplicated private sector information bases, utilizing computer technology for coordination and flow of recommendations and policies for medical knowledge.
Now passage of HR 3962 and Senate legislation adds over 100 new boards, commissions and programs. For example a new Medicare Commission, exempt from judicial review, will unilaterally write rules about utilization and pricing of medical devices and drugs often needed by surgeons. Many regulatory bodies will be overarching in their abilities to select and direct medical subjects concerning Tri-Care, employer group policies, Veteran’s Administration, Medicare, Medicaid, etc.
The HHS Secretary will use these bureaucracies to reflect Congressional intent; not the will of the people. The regulations will utilize disquieting legislative provisions, selected legislator speeches, and selected expert testimony. Regulations will incorporate ideas politicians consider too sensitive for public debate. Medical professionals will join other private sector professionals such as education financial aid directors and CPA’s I know, who often serve as federal agents instead of client advocates.
Princeton bioethics professor Peter Singer recently presented in the New York Times Congressional intent without equivocation. “Rationing health care means getting value for the billions spent by setting limits on which treatments should be paid for from the public purse….There’s no doubt that it’s tough – politically, emotionally, and ethically - to make a decision that means that someone will die sooner than they would have if the decision had gone the other way….The task of health care bureaucrats is then to get the best value for resources they have been allocated….If a teenager can be expected to live another 70 years, saving that life gains 70 years, whereas a person of 85 can be expected to live another 5 years, then saving the 85-year-old will gain of only 5 life-years. That suggests saving one teenager is equivalent to saving 14 85-year-olds”.
Peter Singer’s scientific approach reminds me of the Geneva Conventions, which attempt rational, moral threads to grasp during wars’ barbarity. For my Navy experience pulverizing a major enemy base in Vietnam, I especially liked the clear and obvious reading of Articles 28 and 29 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The VC were responsible for any civilian deaths. Those civilians qualified as Protected Persons within the enemy’s physical control, and could not be used to render certain points and areas immune from military operations.
The passages furnished the basis for rules of engagement we followed when attacking a legitimate military target. Distance provided me the blessing of avoiding clean up after-wards for the mess I helped create. However, I am certain our task force was an effective “death panel”. We permanently shattered that VC main force unit, forcing it to surrender the region to South Vietnamese control.
Government bureaucrats will apply similar detached patterns of analysis to those which enabled our ship to apply over 400 rounds of naval artillery to a VC base camp. Politicians will use the implementation process to disconnect totally from consequences of their actions. The resulting health care regulations will place everyone on pathways to federally defined, cost effective, approved treatments. Seniors and the disabled will hold second class citizenship, because popular philosophies, as discussed above, find these people deficient in societal contributions compared to active workers and youth.
When Sarah Palin speaks of an “America I know and love” she understands that federal administrative laws and regulations are the soft underbelly of our Constitution. Under English common law, which serves as the basis for our Constitution, a person is innocent and not subject to the penalties of the law until proved guilty. Under administrative law like Roman civil law a person is subject to its penalties and restrictions until they discover a way to legally extricate themselves.
Pursuit of happiness means spiritual prosperity within the hazards and uncertainties of personal freedoms. Once again politicians offered enchanting material security, while obscuring subservience to rules vastly increasing their power. This legislation attacks our Bill of Rights by confiscating speech and religious freedoms, personal life without access to courts and trial, and Ninth Amendment personal freedoms guaranteed, but not enumerated by our Constitution.
“Obamacare is making all care “public care”.”
Exactly. They need guidelines to stop the fraud and abuse, so they can only inflict these “guidelines” on all of us to avoid seeming discriminatory. Just like the TSA abuses all to prove they don’t discriminate against young Arab men. Sarah understands this; “profile away!” said she.
What I wonder is what happens the first time this provision would affect a lib that was hanging on to dear life and the gov sent them to their demise. Would libs rethink their position or would they just think it’s taking one for the team so to speak?
And Arab men and burqa clad women are the ones who DON’T get the extra screening. WAKE UP, AMERICA!
Betsy McCaughey read the whole bill. She was the first to break the news there were rationing boards in the bill. She should be credited for her hard work in actually reading the bill. She was also instrumental in exposing Hillarycare.
Palin then called them “death panels”
Back off, Barack.
We don't need guidelines. We only need to respect the Declaration of Independence which validates the "right to life."
If someone wishes to "let nature take its course" and die quietly, that is their right, but it must be voluntary and un-coerced by gubmint rules.
Idiots- Palin is no prophet- she can do what many senators and representatives apparently can’t or won do: READ THE darned legislation. The death panels were part of the bill in every form it took.
Palin did dub them death panels, which got attention, but she didn’tt read the 2800 page bill and discover the rationing boards.
Would you think it was okay if someone else was given credit for a Palin achievement?
I agree.
The harsh reality with Medicare being underfunded by $ many trillions is that we old guys can either go quietly or help enslave our grandkids to the lenders of China.
You were the snarky one, not me. I was pointing out an actual fact and you know it.
LLS
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