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Economy is making steady gains despite weak hiring (alternate universe)
AP ^ | 12.6.10 | Paul Wiseman

Posted on 12/24/2010 11:49:08 AM PST by libh8er

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy is starting to fire on almost every cylinder these days but the one that matters most: Job creation.

Factories are busier. Incomes are rising. Autos are selling. The holiday shopping season is shaping up as the best in four years. Stock prices are surging.

And many analysts are raising their forecasts for the economy's growth. Goldman Sachs, for instance, just revised its gloomy prediction of a 2 percent increase in gross domestic product in 2011 to 2.7 percent and forecast 3.6 percent growth for 2012.

"The upward momentum has more traction this time," says James O'Sullivan, chief economist at MF Global.

If only every major pillar of the economy were faring so well.

Despite weeks of brighter economic news, employers still aren't hiring freely. The economy added a net total of just 39,000 jobs in November, the government said Friday.

That's far too few even to stabilize the unemployment rate, which rose from 9.6 percent in October to 9.8 percent last month. Unemployment is widely expected to stay above 9 percent through next year, in part because of the still-depressed real estate industry.

Job creation ultimately drives the economy, and it remains the most significant weak link.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: joblessrecovery
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1 posted on 12/24/2010 11:49:12 AM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er

Sure it is. I believe everything on AP. I am so glad. Heck the local Tampa paper had over 30 job listings. But it used to have a few hundred. The ones listed were all scams too.


2 posted on 12/24/2010 11:55:07 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: libh8er

Where? the unemployment is 14%+ here is So Florida?


3 posted on 12/24/2010 11:56:03 AM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: libh8er

This is just the media kicking off it’s campaign to re-elect Obama in 2012.


4 posted on 12/24/2010 12:03:46 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: libh8er

I have said since the time of Obama’s election that the economy, regardless of Obama’s actions, would have to get better by the 2012 election. People cannot put off buying needed car or washing machine or fridge forever.

The economy will get better. Obama will take credit. It doesn’t matter that he slowed down any recovery. The old saying will hold true. “The president gets all of the credit. The president gets all of the blame.”


5 posted on 12/24/2010 12:06:57 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

exactly, watch for more of these ‘just-so’ handwaving stories of the ‘improving’ economy as we draw closer to 2012.....


6 posted on 12/24/2010 12:07:50 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: libh8er
Mall parking lots in my area were packed this Christmas but that is no indication of what is being bought in the stores. I also get a sense that folks are generally more optimistic since the elections in Nov. They see the great threat to our way of life (Obama and his minions) as now being reined in by the House and, to a lesser degree, by the Senate.

That said, the small businesses I speak with are still too nervous about Obama ("Obama hates small businessmen/women...they are non-union") for them to hire or otherwise expand. Additionally, many investors seem to be waiting for the manure to hit the fan at the muni and state level before looking beyond Obama.

7 posted on 12/24/2010 12:07:58 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: libh8er

“Steady Gains”?? Where? At the car wash?


8 posted on 12/24/2010 12:08:47 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: screaminsunshine
Until banks return to ‘mark to market’ accounting everything is based on a lie. The stock market, real estate, BS reports like the AP one, it's all based on asset valuation lies. The government and banks both know this, hence ‘mark to fantasy’ is the rule of the day. There are still sheeple to shear. The scheme will continue until it can't........
9 posted on 12/24/2010 12:10:06 PM PST by yadent
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To: libh8er

O’zombie’s 2012 campaign is now if full swing, and he will be running against Ronald Reagan this time.


10 posted on 12/24/2010 12:11:12 PM PST by annieokie
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To: libh8er
Ruling class's definition of a Jobless Recovery: "I've got mine. Ska-roo you."
11 posted on 12/24/2010 12:13:10 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Look at what people are buying in the malls: lots of clothing and other necessities. This is the new “normal”. There is no reason, including the recent election, for anyone to think we’ll ever be back where we were 10 years ago. Regardless of whatever the media prefers to broadcast, as long as there are so many homes around me with “For Sale” signs over a year old, and anyone I know who has replaced a lost job is earning 50-60% of what they were 3 years ago, and others I know still can’t find work even when their unemployment has been cut off, I know we have still not hit bottom yet.


12 posted on 12/24/2010 12:13:56 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Cheetahcat
Where? the unemployment is 14%+ here is So Florida?

The Washington, DC metropolitan area, including the Maryland and Virginia exurbs, of course!

http://www.bls.gov/lau/

"The lowest jobless rate among the large areas was recorded by Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, D.C.-Va.-Md.-W.Va., 5.8 percent."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-07/u-s-metropolitan-area-employment-report-for-oct-text-.html

13 posted on 12/24/2010 12:14:40 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Artemis Webb

“People cannot put off buying needed car or washing machine or fridge forever.”

People have certainly put off buying cars, and are financing any appliances they need; Americans have simply re-defined “need”. Anybody who wants to take credit for this economy is crazy (and will lose their next election).


14 posted on 12/24/2010 12:16:13 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: libh8er

these stories are always followed by 20 “unexpected” economic stories...sometimes by the same writer.


15 posted on 12/24/2010 12:16:37 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: libh8er

Associated Press: the propaganda arm of the Democratic National Committee.

These democrats spit in the face of the American People and tell us it s a refreshing rain.


16 posted on 12/24/2010 12:16:40 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: Sooth2222
“Where? the unemployment is 14%+ here is So Florida?

The Washington, DC metropolitan area, including the Maryland and Virginia exurbs, of course!

http://www.bls.gov/lau/

“The lowest jobless rate among the large areas was recorded by Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, D.C.-Va.-Md.-W.Va., 5.8 percent.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-07/u-s-metropolitan-area-employment-report-for-oct-text-.html";

That's what I thought thank you for confirming it.

17 posted on 12/24/2010 12:16:47 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: yadent

What won the Kenyan Pirate the election (and will cost him the next one) is that no matter what nonsense is spouted by the government or the Dem media, the average person knows they worse off in 2008 than in 2007, and they are still MUCH worse off in 2010 than they were in 2007. Things like real estate prices are most important to those buying or selling homes AT THAT MOMENT; the stock market is important for people buying or selling stock AT THAT MOMENT; what matters most to people is whether or not they can meet basic needs AT THAT MOMENT (and they often can’t).


18 posted on 12/24/2010 12:20:25 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
One of the indicators that is frequently overlooked is the state of the stock market. As the market has had a long run up, peoples' retirement funds are looking a lot better. It gives people the feeling that they are prospering again, even if the money is not immediately disposable income.

Many people have begun saving, and paying down debt, so their personal balance sheets look healthier. Also, mortgages remain near historic lows, and there is pent up demand for new housing, if not existing houses.

Reports of consumer spending for Christmas suggest a recovery to 2007 levels if not better. Nevertheless, it could all change on a dime if the market corrects, and the dollar sinks more, raising energy and other costs. We are by no means out of the woods.

19 posted on 12/24/2010 12:22:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: libh8er

There are plenty of jobs out there. I see new faces at my place all the time to replace those who leave because they have found better jobs somewhere else (translation: in a low tax state). Plenty of company and head hunting firms send me emails pleading they have jobs they can’t fill and need me.

I see plenty of help wanted signs in retail, food service, warehouses and some (but not plenty) in factories. Chicagoland seems to need a lot of machinsts, tool&Die and similar types of skilled blue collar workers. An awful lot of helpwanted signs in front of those places in the industrial parks.


20 posted on 12/24/2010 12:22:34 PM PST by spintreebob
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