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Ancient Caucasian Remains in America: The Ainu in North America
Nephilman ^ | 12-21-2010

Posted on 12/22/2010 2:50:38 PM PST by blam

Ancient Caucasian Remains in America

The Ainu in North America

Archeological anomalies that suggest Amerindians were not the first Americans

Kennewick Man

Spirit Cave Mummy

Wizards Beach Man

Gordon Creek Woman

Penon Woman

The "Mummy People" of Alaska

A handful of skeletal remains have come to light in recent years which suggests that the Modern Amerindians, descended primarily from Mongolian stock were not truly the first Americans. The Ainu race of Japan appears the be the last remaining vestiges of a race that once roamed the Pacific Areas of Asia and the Americas, theiry skeletal remains may possibly be related to this race but they also bear strikingly Caucasian features.

Kennewick Man

(Excerpt) Read more at nephiliman.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ancientamericans; godsgravesglyphs; kennewick; kennewickman; spiritcaveman
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To: Leo Carpathian

Whaaa bout meee?

41 posted on 12/22/2010 4:30:07 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: rdcbn

European Caucasians are not invaders, merely returning home to reclaim ancient lands. White Europeans need to be now considered Indigenous People of America.


42 posted on 12/22/2010 4:44:43 PM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: blam; Eternal_Bear
Hey, I didn't even get to that post to cut loose.

If anything the Jomon (the original inhabitants) were probably "lighter" than the invading Daimyo and Royal Family conquerers in the mid 500s.

In general Japanese skin tones vary tremendously. WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY ~ particularly if it's a Daimyo family, you will have people as light and pink as a Swede, and those who, given a good day's Sun out at the beach, will literally be as black as a Samoan!

To the degree melanin concentration or the absence thereof is of selective advantage to a human population, the Japanese, in my experience, have the broadest available changes. They can be light, or dark, or in-between. Same with the Sakha/Yakuts ~ and they spent thousands of years running trade routes from Siberia to Nepal!

Some Koreans exhibit the same characteristics ~ but again, their old Ruling Elite was totally suppressed under Japanese occupation and most of them were executed. The Yi family had a good number of escapees, and they tend to be lighter, but more Chinese looking than other Koreans.

Still, given all of that the greatest remaining mystery about the Japanese is why they have such a large admixture of Polynesian words in their language. This is definitely post Ice Age stuff, so where did it come from?

43 posted on 12/22/2010 4:50:29 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"The Western branch went to Europe and became the Europeans!"

Oppenheimer says his DNA studies indicate that 50% of the Europeans can trace their origins to a guy in northern Pakistan about 45,000 years ago who made their way to Europe through Russia.

He says the other 50% (of Europeans) can trace their origins to an off-spring (a thousand years later) of the original guy and they made their way to Europe through the Middle-East.

Origins, Age, Spread And Ethnic Association Of European (DNA) Haplogroups And Subclades
(I just discovered this - Haven't studied it yet)

44 posted on 12/22/2010 4:55:22 PM PST by blam
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To: Eternal_Bear

Nah, I wouldn’t presume to know who my ancestors were at this point. But I do know it was not Kennebunkport Man. :)


45 posted on 12/22/2010 5:01:39 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: blam

The skolt sami! Interesting name.


46 posted on 12/22/2010 5:02:10 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: rdcbn
The term Caucasion refers mostly to "white folks", but it also has a very specific meaning ~ the "white folks" whose origins appear to be around or near the Caucasus Mountains.

Unfortunately with the arrival of DNA science and the determination that there were several Ice Age refugia in or near Europe where humanity survived until the glaciers melted, the term Caucasion probably applies to a small percentage of modern Europeans.

Regarding the Ainu, they are an East Asian cultural group that dominated NE Asian coastal and river trade for a couple of thousand years. Their nearest "relatives" (they are a variation of the standard Chinese type) live in China, Russia and Japan. They engage in bear worship, a rather ho-hum standard shamanistic religion found all over North Asia (and among Environmentalist Whackos in the United States).

The Ainu didn't move to Japan's Northern Islands until the late Middle Ages when the ruling lords (the Daimyo and Royal Families) pulled people back from Sakhalin and Hokkaido to meet needs in the Home Islands.

That's when the Ainu began to use the Northern Islands as a base of operations.

In effect, the Ainu have no aboriginal claims on Japan, but they do on China and Russia.

Lotsa' luck eh!

47 posted on 12/22/2010 5:03:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: omegadawn

ONLY SOME OF US.


48 posted on 12/22/2010 5:09:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

Probably ~ and so can the Chinese ~ but they’re not gonna’ eh!


49 posted on 12/22/2010 5:11:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

Who knew that the Star Fleet commander was here so long ago?

Beam us up!


50 posted on 12/22/2010 5:15:19 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: GeronL
Pre-historic nuclear war?? haha

From A Pre-Historic Nuclear War? Reflections on Worlds Before Our Own by Brad Steiger:

"Large areas of fused green glass and vitrified cities have been found deep in the strata of archaeological digs at Pierrelatte in Gabon, Africa; the Euphrates Valley; the Sahara Desert; the Gobi Desert; Iraq; the Mojave Desert; Scotland; the Old and Middle Kingdoms of Egypt; and south-central Turkey.

In contemporary times, such material as fused green glass has only been known at nuclear testing sites (where the sand had melted to form the substance). It is quite unsettling to some to consider it possible that these sites provide evidence of a prehistoric nuclear war.

At the same time, scientists have found a number of uranium deposits that appear to have been mined or depleted in antiquity."

These areas of fused green glass have never been explained by science. They remain an enigma.

51 posted on 12/22/2010 5:18:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Seriously though, we have no idea what was around back then do we? Didn’t they pull up an ancient astrolabe from the med from before when the technology should have been possible?


52 posted on 12/22/2010 5:24:04 PM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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To: Windflier
"These areas of fused green glass have never been explained by science. They remain an enigma."

FWIW, I watched a program on the Discovery channel (I think) in which they were trying to find the source of green glass used in some ancient Egyptian jewelry. Ultimately, they found a large deposit of it on the surface of the Sahara desert. The theory was that a meteorite detonated just above the surface of the earth - the high temps. from the explosion fused the desert sands.

53 posted on 12/22/2010 5:27:40 PM PST by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: muawiyah
"Unfortunately with the arrival of DNA science and the determination that there were several Ice Age refugia in or near Europe where humanity survived until the glaciers melted, the term Caucasion probably applies to a small percentage of modern Europeans"

The European Y-DNA Haplogroups During The Ice Age And The Refuges For The Scant Euro Populations


54 posted on 12/22/2010 5:29:03 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Just read through most of that reference. I didn't find a date on it but some of it looks to be fairly early DNA stuff ~ they didn't get to the Sa'ami considerations as early as they did the other more "important" stuff.

The materials seems to be focused on the agricultural expansion thesis with no reference to refugia ~ so that places it at something like 9 or 10 years ago for the greater part of the writeup.

Doesn't mean it's wrong; just that we may already know more from other materials.

55 posted on 12/22/2010 5:29:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for the information muawiyah. This may seem a little off the wall, but do you have any explanation why supposedly pure-blood Japanese have curly hair?


56 posted on 12/22/2010 5:31:27 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: muawiyah

Make that “pure-blood” Japanese from an upperclass family, descendants of Samurai?


57 posted on 12/22/2010 5:32:58 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Flag_This
There are also gemstones formed by lighting bolts ~ not the ordinary ones but the ones described as Super Bolts.

One of these things hits a deposit of ordinary aluminum compounds and next thing you know you've got shiny stones to sell to the gullible.

58 posted on 12/22/2010 5:33:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: ViLaLuz

Inja, Suh, Inja!


59 posted on 12/22/2010 5:35:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Flag_This
"The theory was that a meteorite detonated just above the surface of the earth - the high temps. from the explosion fused the desert sands."

That's true. It's been proven. King Tut even has some jewelry made from that 'impact glass.'

Egyptian Impact Site: Possible Source of Libyan Desert Glass Discovered


60 posted on 12/22/2010 5:41:29 PM PST by blam
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