[blam]

"The Western branch went to Europe and became the Europeans!"

Oppenheimer says his DNA studies indicate that 50% of the Europeans can trace their origins to a guy in northern Pakistan about 45,000 years ago who made their way to Europe through Russia.

He says the other 50% (of Europeans) can trace their origins to an off-spring (a thousand years later) of the original guy and they made their way to Europe through the Middle-East.

Origins, Age, Spread And Ethnic Association Of European (DNA) Haplogroups And Subclades
(I just discovered this - Haven't studied it yet)

[muawiyah]

Probably ~ and so can the Chinese ~ but they’re not gonna’ eh!

[muawiyah]

Just read through most of that reference. I didn't find a date on it but some of it looks to be fairly early DNA stuff ~ they didn't get to the Sa'ami considerations as early as they did the other more "important" stuff.

The materials seems to be focused on the agricultural expansion thesis with no reference to refugia ~ so that places it at something like 9 or 10 years ago for the greater part of the writeup.

Doesn't mean it's wrong; just that we may already know more from other materials.

[colorado tanker]

Thanks for your posts and links, blam. Fascinating stuff.