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Ancient Caucasian Remains in America: The Ainu in North America
Nephilman ^ | 12-21-2010

Posted on 12/22/2010 2:50:38 PM PST by blam

Ancient Caucasian Remains in America

The Ainu in North America

Archeological anomalies that suggest Amerindians were not the first Americans

Kennewick Man

Spirit Cave Mummy

Wizards Beach Man

Gordon Creek Woman

Penon Woman

The "Mummy People" of Alaska

A handful of skeletal remains have come to light in recent years which suggests that the Modern Amerindians, descended primarily from Mongolian stock were not truly the first Americans. The Ainu race of Japan appears the be the last remaining vestiges of a race that once roamed the Pacific Areas of Asia and the Americas, theiry skeletal remains may possibly be related to this race but they also bear strikingly Caucasian features.

Kennewick Man

(Excerpt) Read more at nephiliman.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ancientamericans; godsgravesglyphs; kennewick; kennewickman; spiritcaveman
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To: rdcbn

I want my reparations.


101 posted on 12/23/2010 5:10:47 AM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: decisis; shibumi; 50mm

Picard = Patrick Stewart, a *Scot*.

Celts got here first.

Give us back our country.

:-P


102 posted on 12/23/2010 5:12:15 AM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: mosesdapoet

I watched the show while the expert forensics artist did that sculpture, step by step.

He said the exact same thing [looks like Patrick Stewart] and pronounced Kennewick man to definitely be -European-.

He has since “recanted” under pressure.

Imagine that.

Somewhere around here, I have it recorded on a VHS tape.

The odds are very high that there were many more of his tribe living there.

So, who “exterminated” them?


103 posted on 12/23/2010 5:17:59 AM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: muawiyah

“They also differ from my timeline since they are “political” ~ and make every effort to avoid having the Emperor’s family come from Korea”

I’ll say! There is huge animosity toward Koreans. I never understood why.

“Among other things he did with his new Samurai forces was to place them in Fukuoka where they could be quickly dispatched to the highly populated regions to the North and South.”

Another explanation. Thank you muawiyah. Are you a professor of Asian studies or something like that?


104 posted on 12/23/2010 5:35:07 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

No, just an amateur historian.


105 posted on 12/23/2010 7:32:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Windflier

BTW, in the period when the machine was built the Romans (and their satrapies) did not yet use a leap year in their calender, and unless you account for the 1/4 year drift each year you end up with your calendar out of synch. The machine accounted for that 1/4 year problem.


106 posted on 12/23/2010 7:38:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Flag_This
There's always dispute on anything attributed to Heron. You have "Heron" the man and engineer, and the school he came from. Heron's big deal is to demonstrate the use of steam. At the same time there are predecessors to his expositions ~ in temples.

We get this same phenomenon later on with Plato who manages to discuss matters hundreds of years after his death ~ thanks to his "school".

The Chinese ALSO did some things in the BCE periods that look a bit out of place.

Transcultural relocation from East to West and West to East could certainly explain the lack of predecessors in both the East and the West.

For a very long time ~ probably hundreds of years since even the Ottoman's had questions about it ~ people hadn't figured out how the Greeks managed to plumb their columns and other temple structures. About 25 years back the problem was solved when someone found scratch marks in the floors. The ancients simply laid a floor and then drew the temple walls/columns on the floor. They then cut the stone to match and up went a perfectly plumbed building.

Still, there are undoubtedly some people still looking for surveyor's tools and detailed blueprints hidden in caves. It might make more sense to look for shims but I suspect the Greeks would have just cut the next layer of column up slightly askew so they wouldn't have to redo the bottom layer.

Periander is also someone to get acquainted with. He appears to have been a rather bright guy and he designed and built the first "railroad" in 600 BCE ~ check http://www.suite101.com/content/the-diolkos-an-ancient-railway-a24554

107 posted on 12/23/2010 7:55:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
BTW, in the period when the machine was built the Romans (and their satrapies) did not yet use a leap year in their calender, and unless you account for the 1/4 year drift each year you end up with your calendar out of synch.

See post 90. The ancients were fully aware of that "drift", and had several methods of compensating for it.

108 posted on 12/23/2010 10:47:07 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

But not the Romans ~ they knew about it but did nothing systematic to fix the problem. The machine was built under the period when the Romans OWNED Greece ~ so I doubt the Greeks were able to do much about changing Roman attitudes.


109 posted on 12/23/2010 10:55:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
Well we know that knowledge can be lost, see how long after the fall of the Roman empire it took for concrete to be rediscovered?

I've heard that when Rome fell, the people of the former dominions decided that everything Roman was evil, so they 'threw out the baby with the bath water', so to speak.

Like our own civilization, the Roman Empire was an interconnected, living entity. When the heart stopped beating, all of those inter-dependencies collapsed along with it, and thousands of specialized functions and knowledge fell by the wayside.

Much was also intentionally suppressed out of living knowledge by the 'new broom' of conquerors. I have no doubt that there were much earlier civilizations who suffered the same fate.

110 posted on 12/23/2010 11:27:39 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gene Eric
I understand that it was the Arabs that ironically managed to document much of what they learned from the Greeks.

The Christians later civilized the Barbarians and somehow managed to resurrect the techno movement the came back to life around the 17th century relying on the foundations abstracted by the Greeks.

Can you imagine the level of technological advancement we'd have today, if the Roman Empire had not collapsed, but merely morphed politically? I think we would have already colonized other worlds.

111 posted on 12/23/2010 11:32:26 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: muawiyah
But not the Romans ~ they knew about it but did nothing systematic to fix the problem. The machine was built under the period when the Romans OWNED Greece ~ so I doubt the Greeks were able to do much about changing Roman attitudes.

So, what are you saying? That the Greeks built this device while under the domination of the Romans, so that they could accurately pinpoint the precise date of their Olympic games?

Enslaved people don't ordinarily make technological strides forward.

Or, perhaps you're now assigning attribution for the device to the Romans, who, per you, cared nothing about the accuracy of their own calendar?

Again, the logic is untidy.

I don't doubt that the device could have been used to plot the precise starting date of the Olympic games. I just don't believe that it was produced primarily for that reason.

112 posted on 12/23/2010 11:49:57 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
The Greek problem wasn't that they couldn't invent things ~ they were being systematically stripped of capital so they could never take that next step forward into the Industrial Revolution.

It was like if Jaquard had invented the cards to control the looms but nobody would front him the bucks to make more cards. Luckily for the rest of us he had no trouble getting financing, and next thing you know we have super computers.

The ancient greeks were left holding a geared clock/calendar/calculator and nowhere to go with it.

Remember, back in Roman times life of the average person was brutish, short and filled with ignorance. The problem with the Romans is they seemed to like it that way.

113 posted on 12/23/2010 12:01:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam
Thanks for your posts and links, blam. Fascinating stuff.
114 posted on 12/23/2010 12:29:43 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: blam

Hm...


115 posted on 12/23/2010 12:31:31 PM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: Windflier
"Can you imagine the level of technological advancement we'd have today, if the Roman Empire had not collapsed, but merely morphed politically? I think we would have already colonized other worlds."

I think natural disasters, plagues and etc. should have more credit for the collapse/demise of civilizations. An example:

Santorini Eruption Much larger Than Originally Believed

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

If humans are to survive, we must get off this world.

116 posted on 12/23/2010 2:48:42 PM PST by blam
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To: Salamander; shibumi

Heck with that. I’m still waiting for my reparations for that bastage Oliver Cromwell stealing my ancestors’ land in County Waterford, Ireland in the 17th century. Give Ireland back to the Irish!


117 posted on 12/23/2010 5:20:10 PM PST by 50mm (I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: blam
If humans are to survive, we must get off this world.

I totally agree. Planets and cultures are frail things. They do not persist. We need to seed the cosmos with our progeny.

118 posted on 12/23/2010 6:40:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: blam

Well, I must say, the times have changed. As I read through this thread, I fully expected to come across a picture of Helen Thomas somewhere. (Ancient Caucasian)

One other thought: Isn’t it time the Government formed a Bureau of Caucasian Affairs?


119 posted on 12/23/2010 7:06:13 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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