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Top Marine pledges to ‘personally lead’ gay integration
Stars and Stripes ^ | Dec. 20, 2010 | Kevin Baron

Posted on 12/20/2010 11:56:32 AM PST by LonelyCon

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To: Joe 6-pack

Same here, more or less. And looking back on it, resigning because I didn’t like the C-in-C was one of the dumbest decisions I’ve ever made.


121 posted on 12/20/2010 1:41:23 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: LonelyCon

“On this matter, we look forward to further demonstrating to the American people the discipline and loyalty that have been the hallmark of the United States Marine Corps for over 235 years.”

It bothers me all the way to my soul to say this, but you have already failed, Amos. This perversion garbage has absolutely no place in our military services— none.


122 posted on 12/20/2010 1:42:56 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
"...resigning because I didn’t like the C-in-C was one of the dumbest decisions I’ve ever made."

I'm fond of saying that I miss a lot of the people and none of the politics.

123 posted on 12/20/2010 1:43:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: LonelyCon

“Never leave your buddy’s behind.”


124 posted on 12/20/2010 1:43:36 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

There’s a line between being compelled to carry out an order that a week ago you felt was morally unjust and now being an enthusiastic supporter of said immoral policy.

It’s not a fine line either. Amos could have fallen on his sword and resigned. It would have made a huge statement in support of moral values.

But clearly - he has no values. Just waivering in the wind.

Gutless.

~hoccck ptui~


125 posted on 12/20/2010 1:43:48 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Jacquerie

>>>>> “Do you advocate the disobeyance of our Armed Forces to Constitutionally enacted law?” <<<<<<

YES!

It isn’t signed yet, it has not been implemented yet so it hasn’t been Constitutionally challenged yet (can’t put the cart before the horse)

You are awfully excited about the prospects of this becoming the Law of the Land ... is there something you want to tell us?

TT


126 posted on 12/20/2010 1:45:33 PM PST by TexasTransplant (I don't mind liberals... I hate liars...there just tends to be a high degree of overlap)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Thanks. Banana Republic is okay for a line of clothing. It is awful as a form of governance.

You are at the wrong forum if you seek support for a military coup d’etat.

Just how deep does your anti-constitutionalism run here, pal?

127 posted on 12/20/2010 1:45:54 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats canÂ’t wait for faggotry in the ranks.)
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To: LonelyCon

I - can’t - take - this- They - went - to - far - this - time....


128 posted on 12/20/2010 1:46:03 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: steve86
I think he is one of those people for whom the Constitution is the highest possible law — that is, his religion and ultimate direction.

For those without a relationship with Christ, this sort of dedication and fidelity is admirable. Problematic on rare occasions such as this, but admirable nonetheless.

Fortunately, for us Christians, there is rarely if ever a case wherein a proper interpretation of the Constitution conflicts with Christian morality.

Yes, true, but these battles are becoming far too numerous. I've taken a pass on too many battles in the past when I could/should have taken a principled stance. As a human being -- and as a Christian -- I don't want to capitulate again.

As other FReepers have said, this may not end nicely.

129 posted on 12/20/2010 1:46:25 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Gutless.

I'd like to see you say that to his face, oh mighty keyboard warrior.

130 posted on 12/20/2010 1:46:45 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: LonelyCon

It's not your daddy's Marine Corps any more, boys.


131 posted on 12/20/2010 1:48:48 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I'd like to see you say that to his face, oh mighty keyboard warrior.

I'd have no problem doing it.

132 posted on 12/20/2010 1:48:52 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“The people you should be howling at are the Congress critters who passed this travesty, ESPECIALLY the GOP’ers who voted for it.”

Agreed, but this entire subject is so screwed up, so wrong, it’s tough not to “howl” at everyone.


133 posted on 12/20/2010 1:49:02 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Read the article. You’re interjecting all sorts of presuppositions.

“All he’s saying is that he’ll carry out his orders to the best of his ability.”

No. He will personally lead the way for gay integrations. You think this is a strategic move and that maybe things will change in a couple of years?

Bull hockey. Amos should have resigned. That would have made a real loud and clear statement for moral clarity. Now with this statement, he is looking like a poster child for fags in the barracks.


134 posted on 12/20/2010 1:50:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: steve86
You sound just like the RINOs. That kind of obsequious and servile thinking is what got us where we are.

There is a rather stark difference between conduct appropriate for private citizens, and conduct appropriate for the Commandant of the Marine Corps. If the Commandant were to whine and complain about this after the order was given, he'd be in the MacArthur situation, where Truman had public backing to sh*tcan MacArthur even though MacArthur may have been right on the merits. Marines have a reputation for being tough, but I can tell you that Marines also pride ourselves on outsmarting the other guys as well.

The problem is that in the realm of cultural norms, things go beyond the point of return and are not reversible. "The End" for the influence of Christian-based ethics on military and civilian codes of conduct.

Well, I'm not as defeatist as you. We went from the moral sewer of Bill Clinton to the essential moral goodness of the George and Laura Bush, though Dubya was too far to the left for my taste.

Maybe you're ready to cut tail and run on trying to fight this, but I'm not. The Marine Corps means too much to me. I think this decision is reversible if we fight not only hard but smart as well. Don't give them any room to claim the brass sabotaged this policy, and let declining enlistement rates and other problems be our evidence arguing for reversal when a new C-in-C gets elected in 2012.

135 posted on 12/20/2010 1:51:27 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: smokingfrog

Chesty Puller has been replaced by Buttsy Pusher.


136 posted on 12/20/2010 1:51:37 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: LonelyCon

They have all sold their souls to the devil.


137 posted on 12/20/2010 1:52:32 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: TexasTransplant
... is there something you want to tell us

Yeah. You emotional clowns need to realize that decadent people sent other decadent people to represent them in Congress, the Presidency and our Courts.

What are you going to do about it?

138 posted on 12/20/2010 1:52:45 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats canÂ’t wait for faggotry in the ranks.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight
What else do you expect him to do. He is just playing the hand he was dealt by the people.

If as a Nation we still exist 10 years from now..... We will be even more riddled with veneral diseases than we are now.

139 posted on 12/20/2010 1:53:38 PM PST by sport
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To: central_va
I'd have no problem doing it.

Sure you would...

James F. Amos

140 posted on 12/20/2010 1:55:11 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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