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C-17 crash report exposes cracks in USAF safety culture
Flight Global ^ | 12/18/2010 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 12/17/2010 8:28:56 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Pilot error is the US Air Force's official cause for the first fatal crash of a Boeing C-17, but the service's investigation report has also exposed lax oversight of an over-aggressive flier who was allowed to repeatedly perform an unsafe airshow routine.

The crash report - released by the Pacific Air Forces Command on 13 December - also echoes the findings of a 16-year-old Boeing B-52 crash that ranks as one of the darkest chapters in USAF history and sparked a movement to reform the service's management and safety culture.

Aviation safety experts have already seized on the new report detailing how the C-17, code-named Sitka 43, crashed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska within the first minute of a planned 12min routine. Despite its brief duration, the flight was still long enough for the pilot - Maj Michael Freyholtz - to deliberately break several

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; c17; elmendorfafb; transportplane; usaf
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1 posted on 12/17/2010 8:29:00 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Sad, needless accident. The loss of the airmen is immeasurable. The C-17 loss was about 1 billion?


2 posted on 12/17/2010 8:49:32 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Hold my beer


3 posted on 12/17/2010 8:50:41 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

hate to say it, but what a screw up. He must have had a brain fart.


4 posted on 12/17/2010 8:58:48 PM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

So you’re flying a few hundred feet above the ground, in a tight right turn > 60 degree angle of bank, stall horn is blaring, and you decide to pull flaps up and kick opposite rudder? WTF was he thinking? Might have just used a gun and spared the lives of his crewmen and the taxpayers plane.

Sorry to sound callous but this was way beyond “pilot error”.


5 posted on 12/17/2010 9:01:54 PM PST by bigbob (.)
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To: bigbob

Stupidity. Nothing else.


6 posted on 12/17/2010 9:19:27 PM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: PhiloBedo

Unfortunately, over aggressive pilots who kill people and destroy aircraft are often ignored. There was a B052 pilot in Washington state a few years ago who was a reckless pilot who had high powered friends who kept him flying long after he should have been grounded. He tried to fly the B-52 like it was a fighter or attack aircraft and plowed it into the ground, killing everyone on board. Much like the C-17 that crashed.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 9:23:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: PhiloBedo

Four airmen killed and about $200 million worth of aircraft destroyed...


8 posted on 12/17/2010 9:24:29 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Consider me a "Domestic Extremist" for believing, "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave!")
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiId0z5EKtk


9 posted on 12/17/2010 9:26:05 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: bigbob
Sorry to sound callous but this was way beyond “pilot error”.

I agree. Terrible tragic waste of fine Americans.

10 posted on 12/17/2010 9:29:34 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: bigbob

Confusing. It says the 2nd officer retracted the flaps prior to the turn. The pilot may have not known they were retracted when he started the turn. It says he reversed stick pressure but says nothing about bank control. No idea why the left rudder unless he was totally disoriented thinking he was leveling and reducing right rudder but ending up with left rudder but it’s hard to see an experienced pilot doing that unless he just ‘lost it’. I would like to see a flight recording of the event.


11 posted on 12/17/2010 9:44:56 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Gravity 1;foolishness 0.


12 posted on 12/17/2010 9:46:50 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: bigbob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBwMJUOFmlM

Here is the video. The flaps were retracted after leveling after the left turn and before the right turn. I happened quickly. I am guessing that the pilot was to confident having banked the plane many times at this angle and speed only this time the 2nd officer had retracted the flap after leveling off. Just guessing.


13 posted on 12/17/2010 9:53:23 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

For comparison... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFkdJjtmeEA
Quite the capable aircraft.


14 posted on 12/17/2010 11:06:12 PM PST by WSGilcrest (I'm just sayin'...)
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In that video it appeared to be a similar maneuver following take-off but flaps stayed extended for both turns and bank was less. I saw another video where they did both turns without flaps but it was not done just following take-off and it also appeared to be at a faster air speed.


15 posted on 12/17/2010 11:23:10 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

One pilots absoluetly wrong actions does not mean the culture of safety we have is cracked. People are always going to make bad judgements and take bad courses of action and prove we are human. We have all but eliminated events like this...Yes, they happen occasionally but out of the thousands of pilots and aircraft we fly in peace and in war for what we do we are amazingly safe.


16 posted on 12/17/2010 11:48:27 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: bigbob
Any decent flight engineer (or the extra safety observer pilot for that matter) would have recognized the airspeed/bank angle/flap limits were being exceeded, physically block the CP from raising the flap handle and loudly repeated "check airspeed/bank angle" until the pilot corrected.

Poor leadership oversight, poor airman ship and pilots that never got over being assigned to heavies instead of fighters...

17 posted on 12/18/2010 12:50:10 AM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: ASOC

ping


18 posted on 12/18/2010 1:05:26 AM PST by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: bigbob

The way you describe it doesn’t appear to be the way it happened in the video. The plane was flying in straight and level flight after the manuever you describe but then went into a hard right bank and that’s where it appears to stall.


19 posted on 12/18/2010 2:02:39 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

For those interested, here is the actual report:

USAF Aircraft Accident Investigation Board Report for Incident of 28 July 2010 (PDF)(41 PAGES)

http://www.pacaf.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-101214-048.pdf


20 posted on 12/18/2010 7:11:16 AM PST by luckybogey
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