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Mike Huckabee Won't Run for President ...if Jeb Bush Runs
Miami New Times ^ | 12/14/10 | Kyle Munzenreider

Posted on 12/14/2010 8:33:09 PM PST by pissant

Former Arkansas Governor turned Fox News host (and now Florida resident) Mike Huckabee says he won't run for President in 2012. Well, he won't if former Florida Governor Jeb Bush decides to run. Huckebee came out of national obscurity to place second in the 2008 Republican Primary, and is widely expected to make a bid again in 2012. Which he probably will considering Jeb Bush has denied time and time again that he'll ever run for President.

"Having gone through the process before and knowing just what it entails, it's not a decision I'll make lightly," Huckabee tells The National Journal. "If I did run, I do think I would have very significant strength going into it. The real question for me is, do I get through the nomination process?"

Other familiar names are also expected to mount a bid in 2012 as well, including Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney. Though, only one person would keep Huckabee out of the race altogether, and that's Jeb.

"I love Jeb, I think he's brilliant," Huckabee says. "He could certainly raise the money, and I think he'd clear the deck."

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.miaminewtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arkansas; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; bush2012; huckabee; huckabee2012; jeb
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To: FTJM; Windflier
I've gotta say - I would like some clarification on any ambiguity regarding her position on Amnesty and the so-called "path to citizenship" she spoke of.

Thoughts?

61 posted on 12/14/2010 10:08:52 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: pissant

I’d be OK with neither one of those RINOs running.


62 posted on 12/14/2010 10:14:08 PM PST by Allegra (I painted fuchsia stripes on my elbows.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami
do you see anything specific that Palin's opponents might perceive as a great vulnerability?

I believe that her opponents can only regurgitate the left's oft repeated themes, the most consistent of which, is the fact that she didn't complete her term as Alaska Governor.

However, they may actually tread carefully around that one, because they all know the truth of what happened there. If they give her an opening on that subject, she'll cream them with the facts of what really went down. They really don't want the American public to be treated to that. They'll wind up looking like the lowest of scumbags, when she's done with them, if they force her to defend herself on that.

Frankly, the lady doesn't really have any vulnerabilities that her opponents can honestly exploit. She's squeaky clean, with an exemplary record of public service. She's an opponent's worst nightmare.

If they want to throw something at her, it'll have to be the same kind of pedestrian crap that liberals and PDSers throw at her. It's all slimy and without merit, and would invite Sarah to bring up the real skeletons in their own closets.

The problem is, there's no 'mutually assured destruction' quotient here. She's the only one holding any cards that can do some real damage. Her opponents have what - Tina Fey?

63 posted on 12/14/2010 10:20:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
"Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

64 posted on 12/14/2010 10:23:23 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Conservative Tsunami
I would like some clarification on any ambiguity regarding her position on Amnesty and the so-called "path to citizenship" she spoke of.

She won't keep you waiting much longer. Expect for Sarah to unleash a trove of extensive and detailed policy positions, including illegal immigration. She's much too smart to leave the voters wondering about where she stands on any important issue.

In the meantime, see my post #60 on this thread.

65 posted on 12/14/2010 10:25:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FTJM

Our legal immigration process is the “path to citizenship” that Sarah is referring to.


66 posted on 12/14/2010 10:27:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I believe that her opponents can only regurgitate the left's oft repeated themes, the most consistent of which, is the fact that she didn't complete her term as Alaska Governor. However, they may actually tread carefully around that one, because they all know the truth of what happened there. If they give her an opening on that subject, she'll cream them with the facts of what really went down. They really don't want the American public to be treated to that. They'll wind up looking like the lowest of scumbags, when she's done with them, if they force her to defend herself on that.

Interesting.

So you believe IF it's brought up (and it most likely will) she'll wind up reminding everyone of the circumstance of dirty play, sabotage, the slander, the libel - and name names (i.e. Dem operatives.) A real can o' worms. I'm assuming Dems, pundits, and probably even some un-enamored Pubbies will harp on it in any case.

Frankly, the lady doesn't really have any vulnerabilities that her opponents can honestly exploit. She's squeaky clean, with an exemplary record of public service. She's an opponent's worst nightmare.

We know one thing - she's completely vetted. Far more than we can say about ANY opponent either in the Primary or the actually Election, The 90% Liberal media will turn it into a battle royal no matter.

I'd be interested in the extent (unlike McCain) of just how willing Pain is willing to undress her opponents and expose their weaknesses and peccadilloes, or larger issues. WILL she go for the throat?

The problem is, there's no 'mutually assured destruction' quotient here. She's the only one holding any cards that can do some real damage. Her opponents have what - Tina Fey?

Yes - IF all things were equal.

She'll have (as mentioned) 90% of media opposing her - as well as the RINO Ruling Elites and Globalists running trip-wire and setting up booby traps.

This would be Ali vs. Frazier, 1971, Madison Square Garden.

67 posted on 12/14/2010 10:41:35 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Windflier
LOL, you don't believe that and neither does she, or McCain. A path to citizenship is a form of amnesty. She even admits by suggesting that it's "partial amnesty".

PALIN: "No amnesty! Do we make them register with the federal government? Yes!"

"“We, our policy, John McCain has been so clear with his policy and it makes a lot of sense too. We secure our borders first. But then with a comprehensive approach we must deal humanely with those who are here, and we must allow the steps to be taken to protect the families of those who are here, maybe as illegal immigrants today.....”

"Governor, let me ask you about immigration. How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska?

I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question.

As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant--there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants--not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. [Emphasis added.] You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country."

68 posted on 12/14/2010 10:42:24 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Windflier; FTJM
Our legal immigration process is the “path to citizenship” that Sarah is referring to.

She may well have meant it in that exact vein. I hope (and pray) you're right. She was a bit ambiguous with her, "not total amnesty" line. This is why I believe more clarification is needed.

69 posted on 12/14/2010 10:45:26 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Windflier
She won't keep you waiting much longer. Expect for Sarah to unleash a trove of extensive and detailed policy positions, including illegal immigration. She's much too smart to leave the voters wondering about where she stands on any important issue.

I look forward to her cutting to the quick, silencing her detractors in this main issue, and leaving no doubt on her positions.

70 posted on 12/14/2010 10:48:17 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Conservative Tsunami
She has supported McCain's position consistently and still does. McCain's position is that you legalize them with the process...

“Just by coincidence, Senator Teddy Kennedy and I, in the last couple of days, after several months of negotiations, have reached an agreement for an immigration proposal that we will be putting out next week, … our proposal is along the lines of make them pay a fine of a couple thousand dollars, make them work for three years, and after three years they can get in the back of the line for a green card and then eventually become citizens.”

–John McCain on Immigration

"Amnesty is forgiveness," McCain, R-Ariz., told "Good Morning America." "This is payment of a fine. This is admission of guilt. … This is earned citizenship, that's what it is."

71 posted on 12/14/2010 11:07:47 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

You can post transcripts of all the “gotcha” interviews you want, but the only thing that will really answer the question of where Governor Palin stands on the subject of illegal immigration, is her own policy position paper.

She has stated over and over again in interviews that she is opposed to illegal immigration, that she wants the border secured, and for all of the illegals to follow the rules of our country, but it’s all too easy for a person to be imprecise in these fast-paced interviews, or to leave out key parts of one’s position on an issue.

Some people (like you) will seize on these informal statements to try to nail a politician to the floor, when in fact these statements aren’t their official positions.

As I told another poster, Governor Palin will put out a compilation of her policy positions at some point. They will be detailed and extensive. That’s the point where we can really have a discussion about where she stands on things.


72 posted on 12/14/2010 11:14:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lawnguy
Stay out da Bushes...

Thank you Reverend Jackson.

73 posted on 12/14/2010 11:17:15 PM PST by Chunga (Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: Windflier

Fixed it for you. Palin is only guilty of reiterating McCain’s position on illegal immigration during the 2008 primary. It was not her position, but she had to support it as his VP running mate.

She’s since stated her own positions on illegal immigration, which mirror those of the American public.


You obviously have not seen her Univision interview....where she states “I am for partial Amnesty...not Total Amnesty”


74 posted on 12/14/2010 11:21:16 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: Brices Crossroads

THEY are the ones who have the qualms and the qualms they have are spelled P-A-L-I-N.


None of these good ole boys want to get their butt whooped by a girl. They will jockey back and forth pretending that one won’t run if the other does. If all of them got together and agreed on which one of them would run, they still wouldn’t have half the support Sarah will have on her own. Pence is the only one that might get some Tea Party support and I’m not sure that he’s not running for VP.

The election should have told them that the market for an establishment candidate in 2012 will be slim to none. The Progressives are not going away quietly. They need to be defeated again by candidates who really know what they stand for. No squishy get-alongers.


75 posted on 12/14/2010 11:47:24 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: pissant

Has anyone else noticed that the Huckster appears to have put back on most of the pounds that he so famously lost?


76 posted on 12/15/2010 12:21:41 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

Must be the fried possum


77 posted on 12/15/2010 12:23:24 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Never! Never! Never!

Jeb Bush had the duty to send troops to save the life of a woman who was being murdered in a nursing home, and he didn’t do it.

If he had refused to send help to a woman drowning in a flood, or had instructed a fire department not to answer a call from a woman in a burning building, what would have become of him?

Well, I personally am holding him to the same standard for refusing to send rescuers to a woman who HE KNEW was being murdered.


78 posted on 12/15/2010 12:51:52 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: pissant
This is best reason for Jeb to run.

I wish Jeb was not a Bush so he could be judged on his merits.

79 posted on 12/15/2010 1:21:12 AM PST by newzjunkey (expired "Bush tax cut" = Obama Tax Increase)
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To: newzjunkey
Ask Terri Schiavo's family what they think about Jeb's "merits".
80 posted on 12/15/2010 1:27:31 AM PST by Bratch
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