Posted on 12/12/2010 8:23:38 PM PST by massmike
Ever since July when a Tea Party planned for the historic Lexington Battle Green was shut down by RINO Republicans who objected to the pro-family, pro-morality message, a battle has flared over whether so-called "moderates" have the right to silence social conservatives. This re-ignited the following month when one of the same RINO activists attempted to stop a South Boston Tea Party from taking place.
Recently the homosexual "conservative" group GOProud has raised the stakes by mounting a campaign to try to persuade national Tea Party leaders that the movement should avoid social issues completely. However, as the homosexual news service Edge Boston reported, it didn't work -- GOProud was rejected by Tea Party Leaders.
But the moderates, social libertarians, and others attached to the Tea Party movement (we all know who they are) have stepped up the pressure to succeed where GOProud failed. They are re-doubling their efforts to purge the Tea Party movement -- and even the larger conservative movement -- of anything beyond "fiscal issues." Some are even acting under the guise of "pro-family".
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To be most effective the Tea Party should focus on economic issues. Not to take anything away from the other concerns over social issues, but the economic situation is most serious right now. Reigning in government spending will have the effect of righting the nation on many social issues but by putting social issues front and center in the Tea Party it actually will make it less likely to get progress on them.
100% of our economic problems were caused by immoral and selfish behavior.
The social issues are the rock.
The Tea party is about taxes and government spending. For a candidate to be supported by the Tea party activists, this is what they should look at. But nothing stops a candidate or now an office holder from having broader issues. The Tea party organizations do not have to embrace those issues, but they should not try to limit the office holders to only their issues.
How are you going to reign in government spending when the selfish snot-nosed populace still wants their “free” handouts? Impossible!
The Tea Party will lose independent support if they decide to take on social issues as well. It would be a foolish way to squander all of their influence.
Go ahead and try to win without the pro-life vote.
Actual without social conservatism you cannot have fiscal conservatism. You can’t have fiscal conservatism and be social leftist because social leftism requires you to take from the productive and to give it to their radical causes.
>> but the economic situation is most serious right now.
You cannot start with the premise the issues are mutually exclusive.
I always find social conservatives are totally conservative....while the fiscal conservatives are neither.
Ronals Reagan would have never won in 1980 if he ignored the social conservatives
Ignoring social conservatives has another term: Liberalism
I believe that the definition of “social issues” needed to be made clear.
FOR EXAMPLE:
1)”Abortion on demand paid for by taxpayers”. Is that a social issue when it takes our money and our moral beliefs?
2) “Homosexuality as a Norm” in our schools. Is that a social issue when it takes not only our money but our children’s very being?
Define SOCIAL Issues apart from POLITICAL ISSUE..... can’t hardly be done IMO
social liberalism requires massive taxation and spending.
You can’t have one without the other.
President of MassResistance,( Brian Camenker),discussed taxpayer funding of graphic homosexual and transgender programs in schools and showed several shocking examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJHvtVBQetc&feature=player_embedded
Rick Santelli and Sarah Palin should take offer direction...
I wrote to another thread the following:
“RINO’s, and their counterparts in the Democrat Party are attempting to force the American People out of their own government.”
I think it is suited to this thread as well.
So keep funding NPR and Planned Parenthood? Keep funding condoms for middle schoolers and gay pride museums?
Keep expanding welfare for all?
hang on.... are these liberal or conservative positions??
So keep funding NPR and Planned Parenthood? Keep funding condoms for middle schoolers and gay pride museums?
Keep expanding welfare for all?
hang on.... are these liberal or conservative positions??
Actually the group wrote a letter to the Republican Party asking that the Republican Party avoid discussion of social issues. And NO the Republican Party should not avoid discussion of social issues but should continue to address all issues of concern to their ranks.
The Tea Party is a movement to restore limited government and fiscal conservatism, and should address social issues only as they relate to fiscal issues. Let conservative groups formed to address social issues stick to their mission and let the Tea Party stick to their original mission.
This isn't rocket science and the attempt by some to cause confusion, really grows tiresome.
They want us to support them, but they don’t intend to support us.
Good luck. They think we prevent them from winning, but try and win without us.
“The Tea Party will lose independent support if they decide to take on social issues as well. It would be a foolish way to squander all of their influence.”
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Social issues are the bedrock of any society.
Without them, you have a band or tribe with no morals and no nation.
Sadly, however, we have too many that think it is all about the money, and morality be damned.
Every business person knows the importance of concentrating on the core issues. You want to develop a brand identity. The Tea Party stands first and foremost for fiscal responsibility and economic issues. Every member can take their own stand on social issues. I’m pro-life but I won’t demand that the Tea Party take a stand pro or con.
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