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Discovery of "Arsenic-bug" Expands Definition of Life
NASA Science ^

Posted on 12/03/2010 7:29:15 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%

NASA-supported researchers have discovered the first known microorganism on Earth able to thrive and reproduce using the toxic chemical arsenic. The microorganism, which lives in California's Mono Lake, substitutes arsenic for phosphorus in the backbone of its DNA and other cellular components.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: evolution; life; science
Arsenic and old lace.
1 posted on 12/03/2010 7:29:21 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Saw that years ago at a local theater....delightful...


2 posted on 12/03/2010 7:31:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Admittedly, I haven’t followed this very closely, but did this “bug” come from outer space...if not, why is it in the realm of NASA, and where did they find it?


3 posted on 12/03/2010 7:32:19 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

The newly discovered microbe, strain GFAJ-1, is a member of a common group of bacteria, the Gammaproteobacteria. In the laboratory, the researchers successfully grew microbes from the lake on a diet that was very lean on phosphorus, but included generous helpings of arsenic. When researchers removed the phosphorus and replaced it with arsenic the microbes continued to grow. Subsequent analyses indicated that the arsenic was being used to produce the building blocks of new GFAJ-1 cells
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Did they instigate an adaptation? Seems to me that they could have.


4 posted on 12/03/2010 7:37:36 AM PST by November 2010
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To: FrankR
NASA is very interested in finding the limits of livable. It has a direct relationship to space exploration.

For but one example, is it safe to bring back samples from Venus, or is there any chance that it would bring "Andromeda Strain" pathogens?

5 posted on 12/03/2010 7:41:01 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 681 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Wow. Arsenic is one of the all-around most nasty atoms there is. I mean, if an atom can be said to be "nasty."

Thallium's pretty bad too.

To get any nastier, you've got to go to the radioactive elements, and in those cases you'd really have to say that the nucleus of the atom is "nasty."

Well, I guess that's not true. Plutonium, for example, is chemically and radiologically poisonous. It's electrons say, "yeah, we're nasty, but if you really want nasty, check out what's under us."

6 posted on 12/03/2010 7:41:34 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: November 2010

“Did they instigate an adaptation? Seems to me that they could have.”

As stated in the movie Jurassic Park, Life finds a way.


7 posted on 12/03/2010 7:42:13 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
“NASA-supported researchers have discovered the first known microorganism on Earth able to thrive and reproduce using the toxic chemical arsenic.”

OK, scrap every CA environmental regulation on the books. Years of smoking dope and munching on same-sex partners have given residents of CA the ability to thrive on toxic substances!

8 posted on 12/03/2010 7:45:23 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: FrankR

“Admittedly, I haven’t followed this very closely, but did this “bug” come from outer space...if not, why is it in the realm of NASA, and where did they find it?”

It’s not from outer space. What they found was an organism that when limited for phosphorous (needed for DNA replication), the microbe could use arsenic as a substitute. Phosphorous and arsenic are closely related and its not uncommon to find enzymes that can substitute one element for another. This is just the first time such a substitution has been found for the DNA molecule.


9 posted on 12/03/2010 7:46:47 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; All
These type of reports are what happens when an agency focuses on muslim outreach rather than science. Notice the date.

Wednesday, January 31, 2001, 22:21 GMT

Fern eats up arsenic

Pteris vittata Nature/Ma

The arsenic builds up in the leaves of the plant Scientists have discovered a fern that thrives on arsenic.

They suggest the plant, (Pteris vittata), could be used to clean up land and water that has been contaminated with the toxic element or its compounds.

Dr Lena Ma, of the University of Florida, US, and colleagues found the brake fern growing on a disused wood-preservation site that had been poisoned with arsenic.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1146555.stm


10 posted on 12/03/2010 7:48:35 AM PST by fso301
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To: November 2010
"Did they instigate an adaptation? Seems to me that they could have."

Of course. All they've shown is that life is far more adaptable than 'they' had previously thought.

The fundamental error is assuming that the observed adaptation extrapolated backward in time is responsible for creating the system (biology) that produces the effect.

Hard to recognize that error when you assume that life evolved from non-life 'a priori'.

11 posted on 12/03/2010 7:51:17 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: November 2010
The Gammaproteobacteria are now hooked on arsenic.

The government is working on starting a new agency to deal with the 'environment' of microbes. New Anti-Arsenic-Addict (AAA) clinics will be set up all over the globe, to help addicted Microbes.

If not stopped, an epidemic could occur killing billions.


12 posted on 12/03/2010 7:52:37 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Hacklehead

Thank you for writing that.

One glance at the periodic table shows us that As is right below P.

“Life” (and the chemistry at its roots) often makes this kind of substitution, sometimes on demand.

“We” have long known of bacteria that (in need of a hydrogen acceptor) swap from using oxygen to sulfur when encountering an aerobic or anaerobic environment. (Think of the smell of low tide).

Similarly ... One of the reasons that scientists and science fiction writers surmise we will encounter a silicon-based life form is that, again, Si is right below C on the periodic table of the elements, and PERHAPS under the right environmental conditions “life” could be Si based.

This is an interesting find, but NOT an alien life form find.


13 posted on 12/03/2010 8:14:28 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Beagle8U

LOL!


14 posted on 12/03/2010 8:26:41 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: fso301

That is interesting.

If a plant can do it, seems like it should be easier for a microbe.


15 posted on 12/03/2010 8:28:42 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GourmetDan
Of course. All they've shown is that life is far more adaptable than 'they' had previously thought.

It's something new to catalog that wasn't observed before.

It's a long held assumption in biology that chemically equivalent elements can replace each other. It's a good idea to document actual existing examples.

16 posted on 12/03/2010 8:32:10 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL!

Women and children hardest hit!


17 posted on 12/03/2010 8:32:48 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: FrankR
Admittedly, I haven’t followed this very closely, but did this “bug” come from outer space...if not, why is it in the realm of NASA, and where did they find it?

Not very many people have been following NASA very closely lately, because it has less and less to do with space anymore.
18 posted on 12/03/2010 8:33:15 AM PST by Ragged Tiger
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To: Hacklehead

How are we certain that this arsenic loving organism isn’t another Antarctic Martian rock?


19 posted on 12/03/2010 8:41:00 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
"It's something new to catalog that wasn't observed before."

"It's a long held assumption in biology that chemically equivalent elements can replace each other. It's a good idea to document actual existing examples."

The fundamental error is assuming that the observed adaptation extrapolated backward in time is responsible for creating the system (biology) that produces the effect.

Hard to recognize that error when you assume that life evolved from non-life 'a priori'.

20 posted on 12/03/2010 8:43:34 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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