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City to Deploy Ambulances to Save Organs
nytimes.com ^ | Dec. 1, 2010 | ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS

Posted on 12/01/2010 11:21:37 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Some 911 calls in Manhattan will now bring out two ambulances, one hurrying to the scene and one lagging slightly behind.

The first one will try to save the patient’s life. The second one will try to save the patient’s kidneys, in case the first ambulance fails.

After months of grappling with the ethical and legal implications, New York City medical officials are beginning to test a system that they hope will one day greatly increase the number of organs collected for transplant.

For five months starting Wednesday, the city will deploy a specially trained team that will monitor 911 calls for people who may be in danger of dying, like those having a heart attack. If efforts to resuscitate the patient fail, the team will quickly move in and try to save the kidneys; normally, patients who die outside hospitals cannot be donors because if too much time passes after the heart stops beating, the organs are unusable.

City officials said the project would be the first of its kind in the United States, though similar operations have been carried out in Europe. They said that they believed they had solved any ethical problems by adopting what they called very conservative standards for who would qualify as a donor.

To overcome fears that patients would be allowed to die for the sake of their organs, officials said that doctors and paramedics trying to resuscitate a patient would not be told whether the preservation unit was waiting in the wings until a supervisor had given the order to stop rescue efforts. The organ team, which will travel in a bright red and white ambulance marked “Organ Preservation Unit,” is supposed to remain out of sight.

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1 posted on 12/01/2010 11:21:39 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What if I’m not a donor? Guess that doesn’t matter now.


2 posted on 12/01/2010 11:23:02 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
doctors and paramedics trying to resuscitate a patient would not be told whether the preservation unit was waiting in the wings until a supervisor had given the order to stop rescue efforts.

Not a problem -- they just won't try to save anyone who they think is borderline.

3 posted on 12/01/2010 11:24:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
don't call 911 or you will be an organ donor. Hopefully you have a neighbor that can drive you.....
4 posted on 12/01/2010 11:27:06 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Pardon me, but this reminds me of circling vultures.


5 posted on 12/01/2010 11:28:12 AM PST by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It's the death panel truck.
6 posted on 12/01/2010 11:30:20 AM PST by KarlInOhio (All monopolies are detestable, but the worst of all is the monopoly of education. -Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“We’re here for your liver” looks like Monty called it right. /Python


7 posted on 12/01/2010 11:34:50 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Deathcare of the 0bamanation has arrived!


8 posted on 12/01/2010 11:38:16 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Another step on the road to Larry Niven’s “organlegger” society.


9 posted on 12/01/2010 11:38:50 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Lots of money to be made in human body parts... for government.
10 posted on 12/01/2010 11:39:43 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; wagglebee
The first one will try to save the patient’s life. The second one will try to save the patient’s kidneys, in case the first ambulance fails. After months of grappling with the ethical and legal implications...

Budget shortfall? Not anymore...

11 posted on 12/01/2010 11:41:26 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Soylent Green?


12 posted on 12/01/2010 11:41:51 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; The Comedian; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

I cannot donate blood, my eyesight is horrible, etc.

Can I get a braclet that tells these graverobbers that I don’t have organs worth a dime on the open market?


13 posted on 12/01/2010 11:43:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not a good idea to agree to be an organ donor. It puts a big temptation in front of any doctor or hospital.

We may be getting to the point where it doesn’t matter if you agree or not. But in the meantime, why put that temptation in front of them?

Because “brain death” is a FICTION. You are not dead until your heart stops beating, your cells die, and you are really dead, and at that point it’s usually too late to harvest organs. So there will be a great temptation to anticipate.


14 posted on 12/01/2010 11:44:50 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: G Larry

I got hit by a car, and when I came to, I was laying in a bathtub packed with ice, and a note that said “seek immediate medical care, your kidneys have been removed”...


15 posted on 12/01/2010 11:45:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I couldn't get to the story without registering. Surely, they are not butchering anyone without seeing a signed donor card. Surely ....... ??
16 posted on 12/01/2010 11:46:45 AM PST by gloryblaze (No tag yet)
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To: Cicero

They tried in the 1990s to make organ donation in Texas something you had to OPT OUT of on your driver’s license rather than opt into.

So much for the abortioninsts’ creed “keep your hands off MY body”.


17 posted on 12/01/2010 11:46:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: OldNavyVet

I had an emergency room physician tell my parents years ago that they should never be organ donors — for this very reason. He never openly admitted anything in particular, but he made it pretty clear that harvesting organs from trauma patients was an important, lucrative part of his work at his hospital.


18 posted on 12/01/2010 11:47:47 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: gloryblaze

I don’t have a donar card....”and quit calling me Shirley” (with respects to the late Leslie Neilson)


19 posted on 12/01/2010 11:49:06 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Lots of money to be made in human body parts... for government.

Of course you're not allowed to sell your own organs.

I guess your body belongs to the government, not you.

20 posted on 12/01/2010 11:49:49 AM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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