Posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:24 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
It's not a crime to think a certain way. It may not be popular to say it (heck I know it isn't), but thought is not a crime, if the govt plants the seed as was done in Portland. Hate to agree with him on this one, but how many people have ever had an untoward thought toward DC? Thought is not a crime....hate crimes are Unconstitutional, and I believe the Judge is correct that this is too.
>> bill’s a bit bitchy tonight.
And when *isn’t” BOR bitchy?
OH WAIT! I know the answer to my OWN QUESTION!
BOR wasn’t bitchy when he was on “The View”! ‘cause those bitches completely monopolize all the bitchy that exists in a five-state area, leaving none at all for Bill!
If it wasn’t for the FBI, there would be no case!
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The defendant want to blow something up. He was looking for help. The mere fact that the FBI was the first in line, doesn’t make him a saint.
Oh. Thanks.
Wasn't the kid reaching out to Muslim extremists? And, didn't the FBI intercept some of his communications, then pose as one of these extremists (at least that's what I read). It seems to me that the idea was already in his head.
Take it step further....
If a person willingly receives the empty gun (and doesn’t buy it), that’s what makes it different?
I came into the segment halfway through, but I don’t recall hearing that the FBI coerced the (hopeful) terrorist.
How many people in the US would push a button if they were told it would blow up DC? A lot of liberals in the mid 2000’s and probably a lot on the right now. The difference is that none of these people are actually carrying out their plans without the FBI.
Thought is not a crime.
HaHaHaHa. You forgot the “sarcasm” tag.
So the govt can hand a gun to every American and see if they point it and pull the trigger? And then arrest them if they do so?
I will say it again......Thought is not a crime.
I agree.
He had the ability to agree or not in steps along the way.
When he had the phone, he was told to push the button to kill, injure or maim hundreds, maybe thousands of people. When it did not go off, he was asked by the agents to step from the cab of the truck and try again to get a better signal.
He pressed the button a SECOND time. What more d we need?
We would be better off if we just stopped accepting muslims into the country.
if you pull the trigger then that is an action, not a thought
I would guess you would also be one of the first ones to start screaming “why didn’t the FBI or cops do something about this guy when they found out he was trying to contact terrorists”....after he was successful with his terrorist plan.
Authorities need to follow through, even setting the individual up, to make the thousands of others just like him already in this country more reluctant to trust anyone telling them they can help them murder Americans. One of the best defenses to terrorism is convincing the would be terrorist he can’t trust anyone and that makes his terrorist attack plan all the harder to implement.
OK, I understand the sarcasm, but the big question is: Should the FBI agents have taught this little sh** how to build a bomb when he was ignorant of how to do it?
If the kid got the gun, I would agree 100%.
This would set a dangerous precedent IMO.
The kid is obviously dangerous as his dad turned him in. The question becomes what to charge him with.
“If it wasn’t for the FBI, there would be no case!”
Or survivors!
“Thought is not a crime.”
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Thank God, huh!
But this was not a mere thought. The defendant did everything to get the bomb to blow up, killing how many people, he “pushed the button”. The only reason the people weren’t killed was that the bomb didn’t explode. Doesn’t matter why.
So with your ridiculous position; anyone using a firearm in a crime should just make sure it is empty; then they can claim they were just thinking of using it...
Sheese.
Go back to DU.
With all due respect, the seed was planted by the Godless heathen religion of Islam. The FBI merely set the tools in place for the kid to hang himself with. If mooslim terrorists had supplied real explosives, people would have died. The “entrapment plea” is as old as the hills. It is the last refuge of scoundrel lawyers trying to acquit their guilty client in the court of public opinion and cannot be allowed to stand, or we as a nation are done.
People don’t get prosecuted or convicted for what they merely think. If they commit no acts, they commit no crtime.
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