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Atheists' Billboard Calls Nativity a 'Myth'
Fox ^ | 11/29/10

Posted on 11/30/2010 12:44:20 PM PST by Borges

Edited on 11/30/2010 1:09:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Borges

Hopeless and joyless is no way to go through life.


41 posted on 11/30/2010 1:19:14 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: paulycy

You mean there really was a Babe Ruth?


42 posted on 11/30/2010 1:19:30 PM PST by Mr. K ('profiling' would be much more offensive than grabbing your balls)
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To: EyeGuy

But.. but...

given ENOUGH time, and random mutations guided by “fitness”,

all those things COULD have developed,
really they could!


43 posted on 11/30/2010 1:22:34 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Mr. K
You mean there really was a Babe Ruth?

I know there was a candy bar by that name...

44 posted on 11/30/2010 1:23:05 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy

“Plus, the strong graphic character of their billboard overrides their verbal message. It just reminds people of the holy birth of the Christ child.”

That’s also what I noticed the most about the billboard. It’s actually one of the best graphical depictions of the Nativity that I’ve ever seen.


45 posted on 11/30/2010 1:24:15 PM PST by Texan Tory
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To: MrB

What gave these blobs of protoplasm a desire to survive, the drive toward fitness?

Why would a lump of goo care to “improve” upon itself?

The Time Argument: I’ll give the smartest team of “Brights”, those smirking, condescending atheists, 987 octillion years to engineer and render functional the 10 layer, billion circuit, electrical grid known as the human retina.

Ready? Go!


46 posted on 11/30/2010 1:32:37 PM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: EyeGuy

Another thing -
no atheist or postmodernist

actually lives consistently with his beliefs.
They DO get affronted when someone “wrongs” them,
but have no basis for something actually being wrong,
besides their own opinion, which is no better of a basis
than someone else’s opinion that is in direct opposition.


47 posted on 11/30/2010 1:34:59 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Borges

I get annoyed by such things. For one thing, the whole conflation of Reason with Atheism is synthetic. What they are basically saying is that anyone who is not an Atheist is not rational, and tit is implicit that Rationality and Atheism are both mutually inclusive. However, I’ve seen Atheist, even those who have taken to calling themselves Rationalists because of this deep connection between Atheism and Reason, say remarkably stupid things, or even buy into discredited claims. For example, that Jesus never existed at all. Nothing rational to that claim because even Atheistic Historians accept him as a Historical person.

Worse still, several brilliant men have written eloquent discourses on their beliefs who were not Atheistic. Men who can explain why they beleiv ein God, or why their Rel;igion makes snese. Reason is obviously not exclusive to Atheism. To claim all Religion is irrational and has no evidence is simply not Truth, and thus not rational.

Further, I always wondered hwy Atheists say they have no Religion when they obviously have a set of beliefs about the nature of our existence and an ontological and philosophical system of thought by which we understand it, that they want to proselytise others into and indoctrinate them in regards to. Religion is not merely about belief in God, and their beliefs really aren’t nonreligious.

But what really irritates me is how they have to attack Christians more than anyone else, and especially on Holidays. Does this seem Rational? Because to me, rather than Celebrating Reason, they are simply attacking someone else’s enjoyment of a Holiday.

This really is nothing but them showing out and trying to attack someone else for an Emotional need to feel superior, not because of Reason.


48 posted on 11/30/2010 1:37:36 PM PST by ZAROVE
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To: Texan Tory

“That’s also what I noticed the most about the billboard. It’s actually one of the best graphical depictions of the Nativity that I’ve ever seen.”

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Indeed. Quite moving. Complete with historically documented Star of Bethlehem.

You’ll note too, that Mary, the Mother of God is praying.


49 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:05 PM PST by EyeGuy (RaceMarxist Obama: The Politics of Vengeance)
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To: ZAROVE

More simply,
if their brains are the result of random processes
that simply had some survival qualities,

how can they trust their “reason” to arrive at Truth?


50 posted on 11/30/2010 1:39:55 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: mc5cents

I think they put up the billboard for the simple reason that misery loves company.

What other reason could there be?


51 posted on 11/30/2010 1:42:23 PM PST by derllak
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To: RexBeach

No wonder they are so cranky — they have nothing to look forward to! LOL


52 posted on 11/30/2010 1:47:23 PM PST by ninergold3 (Let Go and Let God - He IS In Control)
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To: henkster
I don’t believe in atheism.

Of course not. Atheism is a myth. The earth "just happened"? What a whopper!

53 posted on 11/30/2010 1:48:58 PM PST by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
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To: derllak

Same reason that Lucifer took 1/3 of God’s angels with him.


54 posted on 11/30/2010 1:49:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Texan Tory

“It’s actually one of the best graphical depictions of the Nativity that I’ve ever seen.”

Even the palm trees are bowing to Him. And dittos on the previous post that the Wisemen came later. But - it is all part of the Christmas story so gets lumped in there. Also - never any mention of THREE Wisemen (just three gifts!). I used to do this with the kids once they were old enough, seperating the miconceptions (such as the wisemen, and perhaps even the born in a “stable”. Manger yes, “stable” - perhaps not, more like an attached space to a house some have suggested which makes sense as well.

And also teaching them some of the deeper meanings. Such as the three gifts. Valuable yes, and gifts typical for a King. The rare spices also used for burials.

Also is wonderful to go over the OT prophecies in relation to the birth and then read the Christmas story.


55 posted on 11/30/2010 1:51:28 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Borges

David Hume was not a Christian, but Hume rejected the modern day Atheists argument back when it was called “The Enlightenment”. He said that Reason is a Slave to Passion.

The Truth about them is that they aren’t really objective Free thinkers who merely look at the world and arrive at their own inclusions, based on evidence, logic, and science. Rather, they are adherents to a Religious belief, that tells them how the world works, and then seek out evidence that conforms to the predetermined belief system they hold to.

The American Atheists are no different from the Counsel for Secular Humanism, or the Freedom From Religion Foundation. All of them want the same goal, which is not merely to “Get rid of Religion”, but to make sure that you and everyone else is converted to that particular Philosophical and Ontological outlook on life that they have. They do not want you to merely become an Atheist, they want you to also embrace Humanism. I know because I’ve seen the “Rationalist Freethinkers” attack other Atheists who did not agree with them, such as Ayn Rand’s Objectivist, or those dedicated to Neitchean beliefs.

No, its not good enough to be an Atheist, you have to also be a Humanist and follow the same line of thinking that Started in the Enlightenment and developed through the writings of such men as T.H. Huxley and his Children, H.G. Wells, Margaret Sanger, and others in the 19th and early 20th Century. You have to share the same common outlook about “Humankind” that they share. To deviate from this outlook is to be deemed Irrational and illogical. While Belief in God is obviously Scorned, especially if it comes with a Christian ring to it, Atheism is not the some objective with such organisations.

That’s why I say they are a Religion. Religion is defined as a Set of Beliefs about the Fundamental Nature of our Existence, by which we understand our world, and our place in it, and from which our moral and ethical behaviours are also based. The Modern Day Atheists in the American Atheists, or the Counsel for Secular Humanism, or the Freedom From Religion Foundation, or the National Secular Society in the UK, are simply trying to get their set of beliefs about the Fundamental Nature of our Existence to be accepted as the basis of our Culture and the source of all our Laws. They want their moral codes embraced by society as the Standard ones used, their beliefs to be the basis of all Laws, and their basic beliefs to be the basis of Education.

In short, they want to Indoctrinate the whole of society into their Religion, and to do this they seek converts via Proselytising.

They do not call their beliefs Religion, mainly because the Rhetoric they use makes it clear that they hate Religion, and most f them simply think in the Slogans they use, but for all Practical Purposes, and by the actual definition of the term, there beliefs are a Religion.

This really is about trying to mock and degrade one mans Religion to bolster your own, using the ever ready “Atheism is not a Religion, we are not Religious” line as nothing but an excuse.


56 posted on 11/30/2010 1:51:37 PM PST by ZAROVE
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To: Borges

Who does an Athiest *thank* when something good happens to them?


57 posted on 11/30/2010 1:52:10 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: MrB

True. I think there’s a part of them that knows God exists.

Otherwise why would they rail so hard against Him?


58 posted on 11/30/2010 1:54:17 PM PST by derllak
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To: 21twelve

My wife got mad at me today when I was talking to my daughter about the “three kings vs gifts” concept.

I told her, jokingly (and she knew it), that there was a 4th king, but he brought a Walmart gift card.


59 posted on 11/30/2010 1:54:22 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ZAROVE

TWP/TKP-NLTBS (Thread Winning Post/Thread Killing Post - Nothing Left To Be Said).


60 posted on 11/30/2010 1:56:40 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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