Posted on 11/26/2010 6:35:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I’m missing how Palin doesn’t have problems? She’s been rather successfully Borked. While she is dearly loved by the right, there’s a substantial segment of the voting population who’ve bought into all the negatives. To win the election, she has to woo a significant part of that demographic. If she works to do that, she will alienate a good part of her present base. So I see it as a lose-lose for her.
Says the liar.
and he is NOT eligible. End of story. He is unelectable.
Wow, a nasty personal attack.
You are one of our most dedicated, for years running, Romneybot, and you have become quite a fixture as an anti-Palin troll.
Palin is one of three frontrunners, all roughly tied and we have not even started the primaries yet, we conservatives are looking very good at this point.
Reagan was persuaded to select GHWB, one of his bigger mistakesMan, you got that right.
Because you say so? Thanks for clearing that up for us.
You are a liar. Yes, it is a personal attack on you, but it’s what you are. I don’t know why you insist on lying, but lying is a nasty personal attack, and violates the basic concept of civility. One cannot have a rational conversation with a person who repeatedly and brazenly lies.
Before I gave you the benefit of the doubt, as you may have simply been misinformed, so I informed you. In fact, I have informed you multiple times in multiple places over the past few days/weeks, explaining exactly what you were saying that was false.
But you continue to repeat the same lies, even after being told you are lying. Further, you’ve been asked for evidence that might back up your lies, and you’ve provided none, as you could not, as none exists.
People who make false statements, who refuse to accept correction when they are shown they are wrong, and who continue to make the same false statements, forfeit the right to complain about personal attacks.
You are a liar.
I should make it clear that I use that term in the sense of “what you are saying is a lie”, not that this is a basic character flaw. Some people get upset about the distinction between “you are lying” and “you are a liar” — I’m not making that distinction here, but if you are simply upset that I used the “you are a liar” term rather than “you are lying”, I apologize and will use the second version in the future.
But as you repeated your lie in your response, my guess is that you are simply arguing for your right to be safe from criticism for lying; your cowardly hiding behind the trappings of civility that you have rejected for your own actions notwithstanding.
But I don’t hold a grudge. Simply apologize for lying about me, and move on. It’s the right, and civil, thing to do. And after the past couple of weeks, it should be clear to you that your scorched-earth, damn the facts posting in various threads against various other freepers isn’t doing anybody any good, especially not any candidate you might prefer.
Of course, you could instead of apologizing try to find the dozens of my posts that would prove your assertion that I am a “fixture as an anti-Palin troll”. Of course, you will fail, since they don’t exist. But maybe doing the search might help you get over this obsession of yours.
BTW, your other statement is also inaccurate, but as it’s rather old history now, i’m letting it slide. But for your edification, “years running” is a gross overexageration. Your perjorative label isn’t fact or fiction, it’s just childish, uncivilized, nasty name-calling, but I’ve never expected any better from you on that score, even though it too is inaccurate as I’ve explained previously.
Charles, how can it be a lie, it is two simple, factual statements.
You are famous for being a dedicated Romneybot for years, and you are currently well known, and becoming more well known, as an anti-Palin troll.
A lot of your other pro Romney friends such as GOP_Lady have been banned, but you keep struggling along.
You used to wear your romneybot nickname proudly in your tag line.
“CharlesWayneCT (The Swiss Ninja)”
As I said, you are an unrepentant liar, a person who in this case could care less about the truth, one who bears false witness, and behaves in a cowardly fashion.
The Swiss Ninja is not a “Romneybot nickname”, whatever you think that means. It was a nickname assigned to me by another freeper which I thought was funny, especially as it implied I was stealthy, something I am most decidedly not.
And while your statement now isn’t exactly like your previous statement, it still seems to have two glaring falsehoods, although as I said since the one is simply a gross exaggeration coupled with a childish, uncivilized insulting nickname, for which there is no hope of redeeming you, I’m letting slide.
The other statement is simply false, even in it’s new incarnation; although I expect that if you keep lying enough, you might actually make it come true (as “being known for” isn’t really the same as “being”, since if people are stupid enough to believe a word you say, they might believe your lies). It is this slim possibility that forces me to call you what you are, a liar.
See, I don’t care that you childishly sling stupid insults like “Romneybot”, because I don’t think other freepers are taken in by juvenile name-calling, especially when I doubt even YOU could come up with a coherent definition of the term that would actually fit.
But the absurdity of you running around calling Palin supporters “anti-palin trolls” must be pointed out.
Of course, you have also introduced a new lie, that I have “pro romney friends” who have been banned. I speak for myself, and myself alone. I don’t “make friends” online. People are being banned for speaking their mind in a manner that has been banned for this site. I’m here because I respect the rules set forth by the owner of the site.
I note that you refuse to follow my suggestion of looking for actual evidence of your claim. I’m a little surprised; I would think that, in order to recover some tiny speck of dignity, you’d have tried to manufacture SOME piece of evidence of my “anti-palin trolling” that you insist is widespread and well-known.
I’m certain I’ve said SOMETHING that you could twist into an “anti-palin” posting. Heck, I even said bad things about Mitt Romney during those couple of months that he was my formal choice for President — no candidate is perfect.
But I’ve been a pro-Palin freeper since the first days she was chosen by McCain. I’m simply not one whose judgment is clouded by hero-worship of a candidate, or one who lies (as you do) to try to support a candidate I like.
That is kind of an odd way to say that, but it fits your history and explains how you got your nickname, lying and being slippery in behalf of Mitt Romney (and Mormonism) is your nature.
Charles those of us that have had to fight you on the Romney threads since at least 2007 know who you are, and you have lost so many of your fellow Romney supporters over that time.
Your lies here are how you earned your nickname from the anti-Romney crowd, you fight for Romney year after year (and now attack Palin) and deny it up and down.
There was nothing odd in my statement. Unlike you, I won't lie for a candidate. I didn't tell lies about Romney, although I'm not going to argue THAT one with you since will just argue that differences of opinion are lies, and also we are banned from discussing and defense of Romney on this forum. Which may be why you keep pushing this, and bringing up other banned freepers. I'm still here.
As I said, your timeline is grossly exagerated. I actively defended Romney against what I believed were false attacks during 2007, and into early 2008. Once he dropped out, I only occasionally corrected false or incorrect statements when the statements themselves were important. I haven't defended Romney as a candidate since he dropped out. I didn't even argue for him as VP, and supported the Palin choice
Your lies here are how you earned your nickname from the anti-Romney crowd
How do YOU think I got the nickname? Didn't ejonesie22 give me that nickname (that's what another freeper just said on another thread, and you didn't object to that claim)? I said "It was a nickname assigned to me by another freeper; how is that a lie? I made NO comment on how I "earned" the name, your suggestion that I did is another lie.
And I see you still can't find any evidence for your claims, even though it should be easy for you if you aren't lying.
Let me help. Here's a thread: Cheney Mum on Palin's Qualifications
Oops, that's a pro-palin thread I posted
Wait, here's an attack comment: Post 20, "Sarah Palin: Newsweek"
Oops -- that's a comment where I agree Sarah Palin saying: "The out-of-context Newsweek approach is sexist and oh-so-expected by now". I did attack pro-palin people who posted pictures of Palin in a similarly sexist manner.
Here's one: COmment 20, "Media barred from recording or photographing Sarah Palin at Florida events": Oops, I DEFENDED her in that comment as well.
OK, here's one: COmment 46, "Ok, This needs to be said..(Message for Sarah Palin)"..... No wait, the thread attacked Palin, and I posted to defend her.
You lie saying that I am a well-known Palin basher. You call me an "anti-Palin troll". You post NO evidence. I can post link after link showing that I am NOT anti-Palin. But the real proof is found using search.
If you weren't lying, you would already have done what I just did, only posting the dozens of links that would show you weren't lying.
Instead, you post responses bringing up mormonism. I'm a Presbyterian.
Has it ever been done?
Abraham Lincoln?
I never said anything about your religion, I said that you are a romneybot that is a dedicated defender of Mitt Romney, and also Mormonism, that is part of every romneybots obligation and it is necessary to his candidacy among conservatives to strive cover him over that issue.
You go where ever Romney needs defending, and that includes defending Mormonism.
Just as defending Mormonism is a part of the Romney defense, attacking Palin is also, you do both.
Joe, don't be so quick to count Bobby out. He would sweep the dweeb vote, score heavily with CPA students, and it is possible he could even be taught the rudiments of public speaking and teleprompter reading.
As far as that other thing goes (initials "NBC") ... that is not open to discussion and means that you may be a racist. It doesn't matter anymore about the parents and their citizenship, because this being part of The Greater Albania, the COTUS is moot.
Just more lies. And no evidence. I don’t even know what you could mean by “defending mormonism”, or what could possibly make you think, other than your delusional fantasy, that I would defend “mormonism”.
It’s just you trying to deflect from the basic, and obvious, truth — you are lying, and you have no evidence for your claims.
Oh, and you’ve thrown in a new lie “is a defender” — just another thing for which you will find absolutely NO evidence.
I don’t care for Bobby. He lost me when he gave that wimpy speech after Obongo’s faux state of the Union speech. It was pathetic. Also, he is not eligible in my opinion. I don’t want to go down this path again. Born here, both parents citizens at the time of birth. No divided loyalties. No amount of money could make me ever vote for him.
Hes not a natural born citizen, therefore disqualified
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This is true and he’s not eligible and he would never get my vote. Can we effing nominate a real natural born citizen with no divided loyalties? Is that so difficult? No, it’s not, there are plenty of them. Jindal would make a fine Senator but he can’t be President. He would never be elected after this fiasco with the pile of dung in the WH now.
Your promoting and defending Mitt Romney as you lyingly deny it, is why you were given the nickname “The Swiss Ninja” by a member of the anti Romney group, ejonesie22, specifically.
Even now you deny years of your defending Mormonism postings, but you do that in your service to Mitt Romney.
This anti-Palin stuff is part of the pro-Romney thing.
I love Palin, DeMint, Pence but I’m sorry, Jindal cannot run for President. He is not a natural born citizen.
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