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Dark energy and flat Universe exposed by simple method
BBC News ^
| 11/24/10
| BBC
Posted on 11/24/2010 12:52:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge
Researchers have developed a simple technique that adds evidence to the theory that the Universe is flat.
Moreover, the method - developed by revisiting a 30-year-old idea - confirms that "dark energy" makes up nearly three-quarters of the Universe.
The research, published in Nature, uses existing data and relies on fewer assumptions than current approaches.
Author Christian Marinoni says the idea turns estimating the Universe's shape into "primary school" geometry.
While the idea of the Earth being flat preoccupied explorers centuries ago, the question of whether the Universe itself is flat remains a debatable topic.
The degree to which the Universe is curved has an effect on what astronomers see when they look into the cosmos.
A telescope on or near Earth may see an image of a celestial object differently from how the object actually looks, because the very fabric of space and time bends the light coming from it.
Christian Marinoni and Adeline Buzzi of the University of Provence have made use of this phenomenon in their technique.
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Circular reasoning
The technique used in this study was first proposed in 1979 by researchers at the universities of Princeton and Berkeley in the US.
It relies on measuring the degree to which images of far-flung astronomical objects are a distortion of their real appearance. The authors originally suggested a spherical object would work.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; exposed; flatuniverse; simplemethod; speedofdark; stringtheory
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To: Cicero
If the universe is flat, does it sit on the back of a turtle?Assuming turtles are flat, then yes.
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posted on
11/24/2010 1:52:34 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: NormsRevenge
“dark energy” - powering nobama, reid and pelosi since at least 2008.
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posted on
11/24/2010 1:54:59 PM PST
by
upchuck
(When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
To: NormsRevenge
I LIKE SIMPLE!
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posted on
11/24/2010 1:57:29 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: SeeSac
Though now we know that neutrinos are there. Quark or string level for dark matter?
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posted on
11/24/2010 2:00:33 PM PST
by
onedoug
To: Cicero
Wow. Disk World is real after all?
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posted on
11/24/2010 2:01:15 PM PST
by
married21
(As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
To: SunkenCiv; CJ Wolf; houeto; Quix; null and void; B4Ranch; Whenifhow; Silentgypsy; blam; FromLori; ..
"Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping.
Ping list dealing with odd space phenomena and solar events.
FReepmail me if you want on or off
The Comedian's "Space Energy/Solar Weirdness" ping list...
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
11/24/2010 2:08:29 PM PST
by
The Comedian
(Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
To: Fractal Trader
Why? For the usual reason one posits an unobserved entity in science—to explain things one observes which the observed entities and laws do not explain.
Personally, I suspect once one gets the quantum theory of gravity right (no, string theory isn’t it) the “need” for ‘dark matter’ and ‘dark energy’ go away.
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posted on
11/24/2010 2:28:49 PM PST
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: GreenHornet
What type of fabric is space and time made of? Is it washable, or should it be dry cleaned?Absolutely dry-clean only. Just imagine how bad it could get with shrinkage!
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posted on
11/24/2010 2:46:12 PM PST
by
zeugma
(Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
To: UCANSEE2
“It’s turtles all the way down.”
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posted on
11/24/2010 2:49:40 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius.)
To: zeugma
Watch out for the moths. They’re the ones that leave all the ‘black holes’.
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11/24/2010 6:28:35 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
They still dont know, do they?"Ya got that right, doc."
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posted on
11/24/2010 6:38:57 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: SeeSac
How many neutrinos do you see fly through your eyeballs each day? Is one day like, just during the day? Or is it, like, uh, day and night together ?
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posted on
11/24/2010 6:41:09 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: UCANSEE2
You do realize that you’re missing a “Bristol Palin dancing with Mormons at a TSA check point while a Missile and or airplane flies overhead” thread by reading this science thread!!
To: The Comedian; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
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posted on
11/24/2010 7:48:29 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: The Comedian
I’ll never forget how deeply I recognized this statement to be the truth.
“If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.” Mark Twain
Consequently, I simultaneously became a doubter and a believer in almost everything until I had time to prove it to myself.
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posted on
11/24/2010 8:45:30 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(I never met one Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism.)
To: NormsRevenge
“Dark Matter” is a mathematical construct...it doesn’t actually exist. All that DM “explains” is why the universe expands at a faster rate each year.
Of course, the reality is that DM isn’t why the universe is expanding faster at all. It can’t explain it. Dark Matter doesn’t exist.
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posted on
11/24/2010 8:49:39 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: GreenHornet
What type of fabric is space and time made of? Is it washable, or should it be dry cleaned?
All I know is, if I get ketchup on it I'll catch hell from the Wife.
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posted on
11/24/2010 9:00:38 PM PST
by
reagan_fanatic
(Scratch a “progressive” and a fascist bleeds)
To: NormsRevenge
It’s my understanding that the latest theory is that the universe is a bubble shaped like a mattress, and that it’s one of an infinite number of universes.
To: onedoug
[Why can´t we sample this ¨dark energy¨ directly as it´s supposed to be everywhere?]
Maybe because it's not uniformly distributed. Think of the way salt crystals form within a solution, for example. The energy constituting the universe is similarly lumpy - both visible and not-so-visible.
That hypothesized invisible lumpiness is consistent with observable evidence for dark matter/energy ala gravitational lensing.
Consider also the issue of a conception of "dark matter" as being in a form equivalent to the matter we're used to interacting with. It's not.
Dark Mass would be more accurate than dark matter.
Presuming that matter is merely energy in a locally organized state, we can explain "dark" matter as localized energy where E is insufficient to manifest the strong forces required to form "normal" visible matter - but where the Mass associated with E is still present nonetheless.
Thus the effect of gravitational lensing produced by Mass that is essentially invisible.
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posted on
11/25/2010 7:29:01 AM PST
by
LomanBill
(Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
To: NormsRevenge
Moreover, the method - developed by revisiting a 30-year-old idea - confirms that "dark energy" makes up nearly three-quarters of the Universe.
So that's where my car keys went...
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