Posted on 11/24/2010 12:23:18 PM PST by mosesdapoet
After 9/11/ airline passenger security was required to determine, those securing passage on an airliner were who they say they were, going to where they say they were going , and had no ill intent or were driven by a philosophy or creed to do harm to themselves or others while on board that aircraft. the type of security that was needed was to allow passengers to get from point A to point B in safety without impeding the normal flow of those using of that mode of transport.
The TSA began as a modest opt out supplemental agency during the Republican Bush administration where private security firms would be used but in areas where not available this agency would fill the need..
Very shortly after Obama secured the executive branch (presidency) this program along with many others began a massive expansion. TSA is reported to have over 60,000 employees..
that bureaucracy is there for "Keeping Up Appearances". snip Is TSA using hyperbole paranoid rationale so Joe Sixpac and family accept and submit to bizzare draconian procedures which has not produced one valid identifiable terrorist* . But is busy creating a labyrinthine bureacracy (like the EPA) running the government at the expence of Joe Sixpac family's, family's, family .
1st Question
The recent crop of terrorists cited by the National Review article were found in other countries outside the system being used in the US by TSA. What are they doing that is different ?
2nd..Those Xray scanners...(3 parts). 2a.. Do they represent a health issue of radiation dosage to those that use them ? 2b..Can they determine the passenger they are examinining has plastic type explosives hidden in sundry places including body cavities ? Or discovering the explosive being woven as fabric is covering those body parts? 2c...
(Excerpt) Read more at theusmat.com ...
I wonder how many who hate the TSA procedures would really welcome the Israeli system, if we could actually adopt it here. There are only 2 airports there, remember.
You would be giving up a LOT of personal info & subjected to an extensive background check. Israeli’s don’t simply screen anyone who looks Muslim.
I’m not sure we’d be more tolerant of Israeli style screening if people actually knew what it was.
That said, there are clearly far better ways to protect us than Crapitano’s asininity. Too bad for us Soros didn’t invest in thermal imagers instead of body scanners.
http://joytiz.com/2010/soros-scores-on-scanners/
Das vedona.
“You would be giving up a LOT of personal info & subjected to an extensive background check. Israeli’s don’t simply screen anyone who looks Muslim.”
I wouldn’t. I would never fit their profile for interrogation.
I went through the Israeli screening in Tel Aviv years ago and although I refused to divulge information about where I had been and done while in Israel (I was there as part of a US Air Force survey team) I was passed. The questioner wasn’t looking so much for my answers but my attitude, my demeanor and whether or not I was nervous. I would gladly trade what we have for that.
“You would be giving up a LOT of personal info & subjected to an extensive background check. Israeli’s don’t simply screen anyone who looks Muslim.”
What in God’s name are we doing now ? And is that necessary?
Then I have been misinformed by their screening policies. Nobody simply gets waved through because of their appearance or demeanor, from what my well travled friends are telling me.
I’m all for profiling, but we know the courts would never tolerate it even if the politicians had the cojones to do it.
I’m all for looking at el al as a model. Just cautioning that it may not be as simple & unobtrusive as we think. Again, Israel only has 2 airports to monitor.
When was the last time someone who answered "NO" to both questions tried to hijack or bomb a plane? (ok, Unabomber and a couple people in the 70s)
“Then I have been misinformed by their screening policies. Nobody simply gets waved through because of their appearance or demeanor, from what my well travled friends are telling me.”
In addition to the questions asked, they are looking for demeanor. I am an open book, nothing to hide and they would have no interest in grilling me. Maybe your well traveled friends packed some attitude? As you can see by others posting, not everyone is detained or heavily questioned.
No, definitely no attitude.
Believe it our not, TSA does get trained to look for demeanor & attitude. Pistole has been letting that info out now. Maybe we can pressure the new congress to permit at least some common sense at the airports.
One big obstacle will be the courts. I can easily imagine a big battle over equal protection if open profiling were to be permitted.
Is that (TAS) a purposeful misspelling in the headline? Seems appropriate!
Finaly somebody caught it. Actually it was a typo. As I review the commnetary by FR’s I don’t think most (or any ) of the respomders went to the link which has much more to say because they miss the point.
This system has not caught anybody and what they’re using won’t. A three year old traveling with a family of four going on vaction is not and should not be a subject for a body search. A nun traveling on a retreat is not and should not be a subject for a cavity search and so on. This is theater and some of the fools responding have bought into the “Well If syndome”.
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