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This is outrageous.


Catherine DeCarlo claims she was forced by a New York hospital to participate in an abortion.

1 posted on 11/23/2010 4:44:06 PM PST by Pyro7480
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Catholic ping!


2 posted on 11/23/2010 4:45:19 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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I would have said, no. Period. They could fire me, I wouldn’t care.


3 posted on 11/23/2010 4:47:25 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Pyro7480

bump to read later


5 posted on 11/23/2010 4:51:18 PM PST by Huntress (Who the hell are you to tell me what's in my best interests?)
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bump to read later


6 posted on 11/23/2010 4:51:27 PM PST by Huntress (Who the hell are you to tell me what's in my best interests?)
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To: Pyro7480
Not only can't she sue for being forced to assist in the constitutionally guaranteed civil right, SHE will be fined $10,000 by the Health and Human Services Agency.
7 posted on 11/23/2010 4:51:43 PM PST by garjog
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To: Pyro7480

She was no forced. They did not physically force her to participate. She was given an implied or explicit choice. She could have given up her job. If she believes strongly enough to sue then she should have sacrificed her job rather than be part of taking a life.


8 posted on 11/23/2010 4:52:00 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Pyro7480

When laws are no longer Just we have no Justice. When laws are no longer moral, we have an illegitimate government and are being ruled over by despots.


10 posted on 11/23/2010 4:52:48 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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There are lots of anti-racial discrimination laws which merely state that one is not allowed to discriminate, without specifically stating that individuals have the right to a remedy if such discrimination occurs.

If this court had argued in one of those cases that the discrimination could happen without any remedy to the aggrieved they would be labeled racists and hounded out of the courts, or at least prevented from rising any higher.

11 posted on 11/23/2010 4:54:25 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Pyro7480

So...do I understand this right...?

The court pointed out that just because it’s against the law for the hospital to discriminate, that doesn’t mean the law says she can get cash for it? But that it also said she has the right to pursue state discrimination claims, etc...?

IANAL...are there any around who can put this into context? Is this common reasoning of the federal judiciary?


14 posted on 11/23/2010 5:02:41 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Ever thought they told her to do this during a particularly weak moment for her, a she regrets what she has done, and now is calling this hospital out in the courts to protect medical workers’ religious beliefs?

(And if she has been forgiven by God— if so, who are we to keep throwing stones at her?)

I’m praying God will turn this court case into something good—to help save babies’ lives and keep good nurses-— if anyone can, He can do it.


16 posted on 11/23/2010 5:04:23 PM PST by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Pyro7480

This is nothing short of a violation of religious freedom guaranteed by the Constitution. It is coercing one to abandon one’s faith. This arrogance of the Gov’t will be its ultimate undoing.

The US is an anti-God nation no longer bound by the precepts the Founders affirmed. As such it probably isn’t a moral union anyway having dissolved the foundational principles that originally bound the real parties to the Constitution - the sovereign States. Particularly repugnant are the liberal hell-holes known as the Northeast and the West Coast (western CA, Ore, Wash).

Long live Texas and, if it pleases God, may it successfully survive the ultimate self-destruction of the US.


18 posted on 11/23/2010 5:13:59 PM PST by wiley
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To: Pyro7480

But if she were a Muslim forced to work in the presence of pork products, she’d own the place.


20 posted on 11/23/2010 5:17:48 PM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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We are clinging to the debris that was once our Republic. It is amazing how some can rationalize this. So, she can quit instead of participating? If she was Muslim, would the same thing happen. We have been dumbed down to the point that we no longer recognize the loss of our freedoms as Americans!


26 posted on 11/23/2010 5:32:25 PM PST by Dapper 26
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I’m outraged that she assisted.

Not to mention, she would have had a real case if she let them actually punish her for not participating. She participated at will. There’s no case.


27 posted on 11/23/2010 5:38:01 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Pyro7480

She was a coward. It’s like blaming the SS for forcing you to shoot Jews.


39 posted on 11/23/2010 7:20:01 PM PST by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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With all due respect, she should have told them to “f—k off!”. They can’t FORCE her to do anything...all they can do is fire her.


44 posted on 11/23/2010 7:28:02 PM PST by 2harddrive
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I'm appalled at Mt. Sinai. They have Shabbat Elevator for Jews who observe the Sabbath, but will not allow this woman to refuse ot participate in a medically unnecessary procedure? The irony here is that the abortion described also circumvents Jewish Law.
49 posted on 11/23/2010 8:31:16 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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ping


51 posted on 11/23/2010 9:13:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Due to the radical left, America’s courts have been descended into Stalinism.


53 posted on 11/24/2010 3:13:49 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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The legislation that allows them to do this was passed by a lesbian NYS Assemblyperson Debbie Glick, about 6 years ago. She got plenty of help from the rest of the scumbags in the Assembly and Republicans in the NYS Senate plus Pataki. Probably not more than 1 in 100 New Yorkers know this is the law and probably not more than 30 in 100 New Yorkers agree with it.


69 posted on 11/24/2010 6:02:15 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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