Posted on 11/22/2010 11:38:15 AM PST by FTJM
The two Republicans whose names came up most often on the NR cruise? Sarah Palin and Chris Christie.
In my interactions with only a fraction of the 700+ NR cruisegoers — mostly older, mostly well-off, passionate about politics, and many heavily involved with the tea parties — I found about two-thirds wildly enthusiastic about Sarah Palin; you could hear the gasps when Scott Rasmussen predicted she would not be the 2012 Republican nominee. Most of the remaining one-third said that while they personally liked Palin, they didn’t want to see her run in 2012, or anytime soon. An isolated few didn’t seem to like Palin much at all.
I was struck by how many Palin fans agreed with me that resigning the governorship, while understandable, is a serious misstep for any aspiring president. If you want to govern, it is best to demonstrate that you can govern.
The Palin family has taken over your television, between “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” on TLC and Bristol Palin dancing up a storm on “Dancing With the Stars.” You’re also seeing Palin on the cover of People and other non-political magazines. It’s odd to see a Republican begin to master the domination of pop culture that Obama practiced in 2007 and 2008, and this is certainly a way to keep Palin enthusiasts at a fever pitch. But I’m not sure this approach gets her where she wants to go, or at least whether it wins over the folks who aren’t on board with her already.
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Yes, you.
That doesn't make sense either.
The other was to point out that those two guys you mentioned are not in the running for the nomination at this time, and they have no substantial support in that direction, so it is a little hopeless to try and over sell them as equal to a serious frontrunner like Governor Palin.
In the running at this time? That's absurd. Look, I get what you're doing; I say that Pence won the Value Voters Summit straw poll (ahead of Palin) and Demint has enormous support in the TEA Party and among Conservatives (equal or better than Palin's) and you ignore it. Clearly, you don't want the most Conservative candidate in the race and would rather ignore her own words in that regard. It's interesting that you think this is a good strategy...
“You Lie “
...and you’ve been lying all day. I’ll call you out on your lies on every thread you post on.
With a title like that, it’s easy to see who the front runner is.
Now please, go troll somewhere else.
And....? Licking Sarah Palin's boots is now a requirement to be conservative?
I disagree that she's the "only hope". What about Chris Christie? Bobby Jindal? Jim DeMint? What about all the new Tea Party folks in Congress?
What I mean by a Buckley presence is that Palin speaks and it sets the debate. When she mentioned "death panels" in the health care bill, it got the conversation started. It steered the debate. She has done that several times and whether the Left reacts with derision or dismissal, they *do* respond.
She was exceptionally useful this election season without actually running for office. How powerful it would be to have her comments and participation each election season without an actual elective office with which to distract her.
But every time there is a poll released of who should have the GOP nomination, Sarah Palin is not leading. She's not even getting 20% in many of them. That's why I'm unsure her notoriety will translate into votes for president. That's a major problem when the likely result of misdiagnosing the public is four more years of Barack Obama.
I do agree that the Tea Party and conservatives need to coalesce behind one candidate early in the primaries to avoid what happened in 2008. If that person is Palin, I'll have no problem supporting her. But I don't want to hand Palin the nomination until she can prove she has the party's support and, at this point, that's not nearly a certainty.
The Palin supporters need to ask themselves if THEY are willing to support anyone else. I'm not talking about a Romney or Giuliani. I'm talking about solid conservatives whose names are not Sarah Palin.
The point being, toady-boy, that Sarah Palin knows how not to talk like a drunk PTA mom.
Well, that’s my point as well.
The guys you name (Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal, Jim DeMint) are all polling even further behind, (some won’t even run) but they, along with Pence and Barbour and the Huckahillbilly(*shudder*) and who knows who else, will garner enough conservative votes to effectively “split” the conservative block.
Reagan was also derided as too dumb and too conservative, and every poll before the primaries had him losing in a landslide to Carter (he was too polarizing!) It’s two years out, everything can and will change.
Yes, I could go for someone other than Palin, but who? I’m in Iowa and we go first.
We need to be pragmatic and rally around one, and Palin is the one this time IMHO.
The point that you seem unable to understand is that the second part of your post 124 was a ridiculous comparison.
Your holding on to Pence as winning a straw vote is silly too, straw votes mean nothing or Ron Paul would be President forever. Your claim that DeMint has equal or even better support than Palin is absurd also, DeMint is popular, but not in the Presidential standings.
The weird strategy is your obsession with that throwaway statement of Palin’s, what are you going to do, sue her in court, because you claim that now she cannot run for President because you prefer one of the guys, and that your lawyer can prove that they fulfill Governor Palin’s internal vision of who can fulfill her goals for President?
Being the top, most desired speaker in America, having given the greatest speeches of any woman in American history, and her extraordinary success from speeches to narrating television, pretty much already revealed that.
Quit lying Mittbot Troll.
We wouldn’t expect a RINO to support Palin.
“But every time there is a poll released of who should have the GOP nomination, Sarah Palin is not leading”
Actually the GOP nomination poll put out by Quineppac yesterday has Palin in the lead for the first time.
Your holding on to Pence as winning a straw vote is silly too, straw votes mean nothing or Ron Paul would be President forever. Your claim that DeMint has equal or even better support than Palin is absurd also, DeMint is popular, but not in the Presidential standings.
The weird strategy is your obsession with that throwaway statement of Palin’s, what are you going to do, sue her in court, because you claim that now she cannot run for President because you prefer one of the guys, and that your lawyer can prove that they fulfill Governor Palin’s internal vision of who can fulfill her goals for President?
The point was that your comment was very ironic. Let it go now.
I merely pointed out that it's absurd to suggest that Pence or DeMint can't win and that based on her own comments, she would not run if they did. Given her negatives, they would have a better chance to win the key independent and moderate democrat vote. To clarify, I also said that DeMint had equal or better support within the TEA Party and among Conservatives. You haven't been paying attention if you think otherwise. The straw poll that Pence won mattered in as much as it was a social conservative vote and a good indication that he can appeal to them, key constituents to Palin's base.
What is weird is your insistence that Conservatives shouldn't hold their candidates to their word, or that honesty and integrity don't matter to Conservatives. Good luck with that strategy...
Quit trolling, it’s gotten tiresome.
LOL...ok PDS boy...you’re not a troll.
You are insane and you will go off the deep end here in “Palin Country”
All you have is vitriol at this point. Instead of trolling, you might try to have some intellectual honesty and actually contribute to the Conservative conservation. The site will be better for it.
“All you have is vitriol at this point.”
I’m not the one going from Palin thread to Palin thread making up vitriolic lies...you are lol.
“Instead of trolling”
The Trolling belongs to you, as you are well aware.
“you might try to have some intellectual honesty and actually contribute to the Conservative conservation.”
I only debate with conservatives, not the deranged.
Ironic, you just lied.
I only debate with conservatives, not the deranged.
See previous comment about intellectual honesty.
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