Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

TSA agents claim they "absolutely hate new pat downs".
techdirt.com ^ | Fri, Nov 19th 2010 | Mike Masnick

Posted on 11/22/2010 8:41:32 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek

"This is going to be a serious problem for the TSA if it doesn't figure out something quick. So far, the TSA seems to be in near absolute denial that this is actually a problem, but if these TSA responses are indicative of how most TSA agents feel, there are going to be a lot fewer security people at airports very, very soon."

(Excerpt) Read more at techdirt.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: patdown; scanner; tsa; tsapervs
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081 next last
To: annieokie

This was posted last week only attributed to Israeli inventors.


61 posted on 11/22/2010 10:53:33 AM PST by Vor Lady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Vor Lady; Beelzebubba
So. Many may have not seen it, I didn't. Needs to be posted on every TSA thread.

Who care where it came from or attributed to, it is effective, funny and WILL solve the problem. I love it.

Keep it going.

62 posted on 11/22/2010 10:57:46 AM PST by annieokie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

WOW!!! Another person belittling what others have gone through. Seems to be a trend here on Freerepublic, sadly.


63 posted on 11/22/2010 11:00:25 AM PST by SengirV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: annieokie

I’m sorry, wasn’t intending to give you grief for posting. It is just as funny today as it was last week and inspired my son who likes to tinker to think how one could make such a device. Who ever came up with the idea probably used the Israelis as they have had alot of experience with suicide bombers. I like the Russian angle though as they at least have a ‘manly’ leader unlike our metrosexual if not homosexual president.


64 posted on 11/22/2010 11:05:44 AM PST by Vor Lady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek

The inherant problem in filling jobs like this is that the people who want to do the job are exactly the kind of people we don’t want doing the job.


65 posted on 11/22/2010 11:07:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (Save The USA. Stamp out Affirmative Action: Get the Obamas out of the White House.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: annieokie

Tell me how one detonates C4 or a flammable fluid remotely without harming innocent people?

It’s technologically absurd.


66 posted on 11/22/2010 11:09:49 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: bvw
Right ~ .002. We were at lunch when the number came to me ~ that means over the course of a year a TSA agent is only going to have 20 to 30 people wandering about the parking lot waiting to kill him.

Hmm.

67 posted on 11/22/2010 12:07:14 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

Tar and feathering is more appropriate. Killing is for cowards.

But at some point we all have to become cowards if this kind of assault continues.


68 posted on 11/22/2010 12:11:51 PM PST by bvw (No TSA goon will touch MY stuff)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Beelzebubba

Well, OK THEN. lol


69 posted on 11/22/2010 1:45:33 PM PST by annieokie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: SengirV

How am I belitting what others have gone through? I realize that people undergiong invasive crap at airports is nothing - NOTHING AT ALL - what Jews went through. NOTHING.

If I have offended any Jews then I apolgize because I have wish nor did I intend to belittle the horrors the Jewish people went through.

What I am saying is that people will keep horrible and evil jobs if they don’t have accurate and functional moral compasses. And that acceptance of increasing humiliation and loss of freedoms bit by bit has terrible precedent.


70 posted on 11/22/2010 2:33:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek

Who is checking the TSA screeners before work, and after breaks? Bathrooms do not have camera’s in them...privacy clause stuff. They are checking flight attendents and pilots...why are TSA screeners not having the same treatment?


71 posted on 11/22/2010 2:37:03 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek
Quit you bastards. Till then you're just tools of the state!!

Damn, I sound like a 60's leftist .... talk about ironic

72 posted on 11/22/2010 2:41:00 PM PST by Centurion2000 (WTH happened to my country?? I joined the Marines and defended the USA and it degenerates into this?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
Secret Service has a list reputed to contain 400,000 names of people who may be "threats" to the safety of Presidents, Senators, Representatives, Governors, etc. That's 400,000 out of 220,000,000 adults, or 4/220, which is just short of 2% of the adult population.

Your math is off .... that's 4/2200 or 0.18% of the population. Double check it and you'll see it.

73 posted on 11/22/2010 2:49:00 PM PST by Centurion2000 (WTH happened to my country?? I joined the Marines and defended the USA and it degenerates into this?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Centurion2000
Read further and you should see the new answer ~ which is the only thing important. At the end of a year each TSA field agent should have somewhere between 20 and 30 people wandering the parking lots at airports trying to find them to hurt them really bad.

This is not a good scene.

BTW, they may have been ahead with 200 to 300 people looking for them since a crowd that big would probably draw the attention of the police.

74 posted on 11/22/2010 2:52:26 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek

Sometime in the past 6 months, I was patted down. I think the ‘reason’ was because I kept setting off the alarm - never did figure out why.

There was no crotch or boob grabbing - just sliding palms up and down arms and legs. I don’t think the woman doing it enjoyed it any more than I did. So I would assume that yeah, the non perv TSA people don’t like it either.


75 posted on 11/22/2010 2:55:49 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop ACORN destroying America! Cut off their federal funding!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Thermalseeker

You don’t get on until we get off!

LOL!


76 posted on 11/22/2010 3:07:31 PM PST by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek

“No one is forcing TSA agents to violate the privacy and dignity of their fellow citizens - they can always find another job. Granted, many are former hourly workers who might prefer the job security and guaranteed pension the TSA can provide but hopefully some will refuse to do this job.”

TSO’s don’t have job security. It’s a really crappy job that is just enough to pay the bills. Not even 15 bucks an hour at most places. You don’t get full-time status for at least a year.You don’t get the pension till you’ve been full-time several years and get “vested”. The pension is based on the wages you were paid as a TSO, which are crap.

They have to re-test on the scanner test every 3 months, and if you fail, once, you’re gone, fired, kaput. The scanner test is very strange (I actually took the test for the job last year). The supervisors are constantly looking to fire everyone that isn’t a total suck-up. They can get rid of pretty much whoever they want up until the worker gets full-time status, which they do their level best to prevent from happening.
The background check for TSA is actually tighter than the ones I’ve taken for law enforcement jobs. It’s REALLY intrusive. They asked for my 80+ year old mother’s citizenship certificate number from when she became a citizen back in the 1950s, among other things. I’m still technically on the applicant roster, but it looks like I have another job now, so I am not pursuing the TSA thing. The whole process of applying to work there is a gigantic pain in the behind, and takes months. I tested in Jan of 2010, and didn’t even hear from them about an actual position till June.

The process:
Sign up for the test
They email you where and when to take the test (you need 2 government ID’s, etc)
Take the weird test. You get your results amazingly quickly (emailed to you within 8hrs of completion of test)
Wait wait wait....
They send you the info to start filling out the credit part of the background, consents, etc.
If you pass the credit part, they set you up with an online account to fill out the personal and criminal background.. it’s about 50 pages long.
Fill that out.. wait wait wait some more
You get an email that you’re in the “applicant pool” for the airport where you applied to work.
Wait wait wait (months)
You get a call for the “airport exam” where they test if you can lift 50lb or more repeatedly, color vision test, etc)
They also send you for a medical at that time.
THEN you wait for an actual spot to be open and maybe you get a job that pays $15 an hour, and you work part-time, with only part-time benefits, etc. You work split shifts, 2-4hrs here and there, and so on, as needed, and if you can’t work whenever they ask, you can be fired.

Working for the TSA sucks bad. I actually feel sorry for the line workers because they’re just guys doing a crummy job that get public abuse a LOT. It isn’t just the guys at the gate, there are also the ones who have to go searching through luggage back there behind the airline counter wall. They have to search through people’s dirty nasty underwear and sex toys and whatever else is in the suitcases.

I DON’T have any sympathy for their bosses, though. Those are the guys that make up the policies and crap that we all abuse the worker schmucks for. And at the same time, those bosses abuse those very same worker schmucks. Really, all of this pat-down crap comes from the Powers That Be in DC.

It’s a lot like blaming the local PD for the laws written in the state capital.

Of course, this post is probably the last thing that people on here want to hear, too.


77 posted on 11/22/2010 3:44:06 PM PST by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SengirV

No one is forcing TSA agents to violate the privacy and dignity of their fellow citizens - they can always find another job.
Uhhh no, not as easy as you think.


Life involves choices and the choices reveal what we are made of.


78 posted on 11/22/2010 3:56:52 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
Read further and you should see the new answer ~ which is the only thing important. At the end of a year each TSA field agent should have somewhere between 20 and 30 people wandering the parking lots at airports trying to find them to hurt them really bad.

Fair enough ... but yeah 20-30 murderous enemies / year for a 15 dollar an hour job ... not cost effective AT ALL.

79 posted on 11/23/2010 9:29:43 AM PST by Centurion2000 (WTH happened to my country?? I joined the Marines and defended the USA and it degenerates into this?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: Centurion2000

Thank you Centurion2000. That’s at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2631295/posts?page=79#79


80 posted on 11/23/2010 9:32:28 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson