Where are any other contrails in this huge swath of the west coast? Sheesh!
Posted on 11/20/2010 11:34:24 PM PST by JohnKinAK
Glenn Beck said today that he has spoken to military experts about the mystery contrail from a few weeks ago and he says it’s definitely not a plane, but rather a two stage missile. He just wants to know where it came from, and he has a theory. Beck postulates that this missile was possibly from a Chinese sub off the coast of California, perhaps as a show of force to the world, but even more so to President Obama.
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Take a look at the satellite images of the contrail. Even taking into account of the angle and perspective of the sat image you can get an idea of how far off the coast this persistent contrail was. The contrail shows that what you are witnessing is a not a vertical launched ballistic missile. The Hermosa beach images also show the true perspective of this persistent contrail. It is heading towards the coast and not away as described by Gil Leyvas.
The CBS video is edited for effect. Consider that the suggested burner portion of that tape is repeated and slowed down for effect? The video does not show a continuous track of light as you suggest.
No, I looked plenty deep at contrailscience. What he presents there demolishes the missile theory.
BTW, what kind of scientist is Rush Limbaugh?
Thanks for the ping.
At first like everyone when my sister told me about this I thought she was crazy, however everything started to make sense. How could I (a twenty something) have so many health issues?
Thanks for the link Dave.
Fine wordsmithing, there. What the Leyvas' video DOES show is a vertical launch. Period. The sunlight tells us this. All the trimming and editing in the world of the video's immages doesn't change the direction of the sun and how it illuminates the plume, and IF IT DID, tell us why still shots are perfectly acceptable for the airplane sides' reubttals, but inadmissiable on the part of Leyvas' film? Any clip, no matter HOW it is edited from what came before or after it, is the equivalent of a bunch of still shots taken one after the other.
PEOPLE, pay attention and notice when the airplane people go to so much trouble to KEEP YOU FROM WATCHING THE VIDEO. They don't want you to watch it because they KNOW perfectly well a video of a missile shot shows both time and movement in terms the eye can more easily compute; those airplane folks so intent on distracting you from the original Leyvas video understand that still shots of missiles AND ESPECIALLY airplane contrails are excellent tools for deception; it's much harder to deceive using a video.
Well, whatever "unpredendented" means it certainly isn't in any dictionary or thesaurus I've perused.
Yeah, that's been done to all degrees - cover-ups by our government and their tentacles of support. One 'logical' explanation and observance from even a non-pilot/layman like myself, is that planes just don't fly at these angles. Period. You can show all the angles you like in reference to this incident, but you can't remove the suspicion most of us have of this event when it comes to our government and the times we are in at present. Where are the 'wings' of this so-called airplane or jet? Of all the zoomed shots of this craft, I have not seen any evidence that it is a plane of any sort. The jury is still out on what this event or craft 'actually' was.
I type fast and don’t always click spell check, not to mention probably wearing my cloth gloves cuz I was chilly.
So sue me.
You can’t see wings because the video camera is not capable of discerning them at those massive distances. it was dozens of miles off the coast! there are limits to even news cameras.
look, all the photos and video camera angles line up with the UPS flight...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwQNdadIv4
Multiple viewing angles, multiple cameras, including weather satellites, ALL ilne up with the UPS flight.
How can anyone dismiss that?
The jury isn’t out, it was never needed.
It’s a jet. It’s where all the data points.
“What is amazing is that so much other water has flowed under the bridge since this incident.”
I will try to answer the question then, the “missile” conspiracy speaks straight to the heart of our safety and security. The missileers are racists that desperately want to pin a made-up lapse of national security on the black man - our president. As soon as whitey gets back in the white house, everything will miraculously be safe and secure.
So is that it?
Where are any other contrails in this huge swath of the west coast? Sheesh!
Why does the time stamp say PST instead of PDST if it hasn’t been changed? Take your baloney somewhere else.
Actually, our security is tighter than ever. Although the DEW line and over-the-horizon-radar sites are history. I think the motivations must be more phallic in nature(?)
The conditions for a persistent contrail can be localized and can come and go. Just because you have a contrail in one place doesn’t mean you’ll have them everywhere.
I guess the alternative is that NASA is in on the conspiracy and has doctored the satellite photos. Is that what you’re saying?
As for the timestamp at the Cargo Law website - they specifically note that their timestamp is an hour off due to the time change. Are they lying? Are they in on the conspiracy too?
“I think the motivations must be more phallic in nature(?)”
That would be psuedo-phallic, wouldn’t it? So missleers are psuedo-phallic racists.....
Same flight path a half hour later and conditions from Hawaii to LA changed the whole way.?. Got any bridges you want to sell?
bttt
Another day has passed, and still not an ounce of proof from the missile crowd.
Let me know when you all have actual data, other than “tat sure looks like a missile!”
So you’re saying NASA doctored the satellite photo then, right?
There are explanations for a single contrail that are far more plausible than the photo being doctored as part of some grand, ludicrous conspiracy. For instance the earlier flight could have flown the same path but at a slightly different altitude where the conditions for contrails were different.
And I see you’ve ignored the part about the time change at the Cargo Law site. If their cam shows what it shows at the correct time — which apparently it does — then your theory is toast. Because what it shows is a contrail, not a rocket.
The proof is in the angle of a setting sun illuminating the westerly side of the vertical plume in the Leyvas video. One can compare it side-by-side with the angle of any number of still shots of horizontal airline contrails being lit from below, and the airplane side is doing so and persuading people, literally, that EAST is UP when it comes to what they see in the Leyvas video or any still shot taken from the video.
STILL SHOTS of airline contrails are deceptive -- it's part of their charm. In reality, there's not an ounce of proof from the airplane crowd. Just a lot of still photos from unconfirmed sources, lots of hocus pocus with calculations and animated GIFs, satellite photos, pics supposedly taken here and there and everywhere of what some blogger claims is of same event, and an aggressive attempt to get people to look at anything BUT the video.
Someone on the airplane side HAS to know perfectly well that no video of an eastbound airliner leaving a horizontal contrail against a setting sun, could EVER mimic a missile launch heading north west against a setting sun. A person who has seen a live missile launch knows this, but someone who has only ever seen airplane contrails, and who is looking at still photos instead of real-time moving videos, could -- OBVIOUSLY!!! -- be persuaded into believing otherwise. It is perfectly understandable that they should, and they are being taken advantage of. It could have been me if I'd spent my life somewhere else.
Everyone has seen airline contrails, and every one of us can draw from our experiences seeing them. Meanwhile, anyone who wants to can read the many thousands of posts on FR and other forums, and learn that THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people who've also seen live missile launches and/or have talked with friends in the military who have experience in missileering, ID the event in the video as a missile ...
... while the majority of those who are persuaded by (and in some cases, promoting) the airplane cover, have only seen airplane contrails but have never seen a live missile launch. Not all of them, but most of them.
Everybody's seen airline contrails that could be mistaken, in a still photo, for a missile trail. But those of us with empirical experience observing both airliners leaving contrails and missiles leaving plumes, UNDERSTAND that there is zero way that a video of an airliner leaving a contrail overhead is going to fool anyone into thinking it's a missile leaving a plume, especially not someone with anything like a pair of binoculars as the cameraman had on his 2-X lens. That is probably why the airplane side's "proof" consists solely of still photos, and it is probably why those who push the contrail cover story work so diligently to discourage those on the fence from watching the video.
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