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To: Finny

Another day has passed, and still not an ounce of proof from the missile crowd.

Let me know when you all have actual data, other than “tat sure looks like a missile!”


318 posted on 11/24/2010 5:34:25 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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To: Sto Zvirat
Your "proof" consists solely of still photos comparing horizontal contrails with vertical launches. Your "proof" is empty and deceptive.

The proof is in the angle of a setting sun illuminating the westerly side of the vertical plume in the Leyvas video. One can compare it side-by-side with the angle of any number of still shots of horizontal airline contrails being lit from below, and the airplane side is doing so and persuading people, literally, that EAST is UP when it comes to what they see in the Leyvas video or any still shot taken from the video.

STILL SHOTS of airline contrails are deceptive -- it's part of their charm. In reality, there's not an ounce of proof from the airplane crowd. Just a lot of still photos from unconfirmed sources, lots of hocus pocus with calculations and animated GIFs, satellite photos, pics supposedly taken here and there and everywhere of what some blogger claims is of same event, and an aggressive attempt to get people to look at anything BUT the video.

Someone on the airplane side HAS to know perfectly well that no video of an eastbound airliner leaving a horizontal contrail against a setting sun, could EVER mimic a missile launch heading north west against a setting sun. A person who has seen a live missile launch knows this, but someone who has only ever seen airplane contrails, and who is looking at still photos instead of real-time moving videos, could -- OBVIOUSLY!!! -- be persuaded into believing otherwise. It is perfectly understandable that they should, and they are being taken advantage of. It could have been me if I'd spent my life somewhere else.

Everyone has seen airline contrails, and every one of us can draw from our experiences seeing them. Meanwhile, anyone who wants to can read the many thousands of posts on FR and other forums, and learn that THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of people who've also seen live missile launches and/or have talked with friends in the military who have experience in missileering, ID the event in the video as a missile ...

... while the majority of those who are persuaded by (and in some cases, promoting) the airplane cover, have only seen airplane contrails but have never seen a live missile launch. Not all of them, but most of them.

Everybody's seen airline contrails that could be mistaken, in a still photo, for a missile trail. But those of us with empirical experience observing both airliners leaving contrails and missiles leaving plumes, UNDERSTAND that there is zero way that a video of an airliner leaving a contrail overhead is going to fool anyone into thinking it's a missile leaving a plume, especially not someone with anything like a pair of binoculars as the cameraman had on his 2-X lens. That is probably why the airplane side's "proof" consists solely of still photos, and it is probably why those who push the contrail cover story work so diligently to discourage those on the fence from watching the video.

320 posted on 11/24/2010 6:58:42 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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