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Bold Prediction: Dow Will Top 14000 in 2012
Forbes ^ | 11/17/2010 | Clem Chambers

Posted on 11/17/2010 6:45:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Someone has to say it: “Doomsters, you have been wrong now for nearly two years. Why not shut up?”

On the one hand doomsters are very profitable for me because they represent the sentiment that makes stocks cheap for me to buy. However, on the other hand, I’m fed up with the bearish pollution sloshing around the media. Are these doomsters making money? If so, how?

Of course there are problems, were problems, will be problems. But the credit crunch crash is dead and we are now healing. We will be healing for more years to come.

The market will go up from here; up a long way.

Readers of my columns will note I was calling the credit crunch crash from early 2007, so I’m not a perma-bull. I can do doom, but this is not the time for it. The markets are clearly saying otherwise.

The era labelled “the credit crunch” is within months of being over. Whatever follows will be driven by a different set of factors, most likely the actions to remedy the “credit crunch” itself. Actions like QE and QE2.

QE2 is something I’ve been talking about for a long time. It’s debt monetization which, for most of us, is called “printing money”. Up until now—for all the talk—much of the bailout has been sterilised. That is to say money has been injected with one hand and removed with the other. QE2 is straight, old-fashioned inflationary money printing. That needn’t be bad.

It’s bad when there is already enough money about, but apparently in the United States there is not. Certainly in Japan there isn’t either.

“Monetizing debt” is economic heresy, as over history it has been responsible for more economic problems than anything else short of war.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: dow; dowjones; dowjonesindex; stockmarket
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1 posted on 11/17/2010 6:45:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Dow at 14,000, cup of coffee at 25...


2 posted on 11/17/2010 6:48:00 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

With enough inflation, I bet the Dow could top 140,000.


3 posted on 11/17/2010 6:48:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Smokin' Joe

..and a billion and a pony for EVERYBODY.!


4 posted on 11/17/2010 6:52:23 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: SeekAndFind

Long term unemployed hit 208 weeks in 2012!


5 posted on 11/17/2010 6:52:49 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: SeekAndFind

That is bold!

Karl Denninger Sees Dow at 3,000 Next Year

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/karl-denninger-sees-dow-3000-next-year?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+zerohedge/feed+(zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline,+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero)


6 posted on 11/17/2010 6:53:10 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: SeekAndFind
QE2 is straight, old-fashioned inflationary money printing. That needn’t be bad.

For those deeply in debt(i.e. FedGov™) inflation is a God send. For everyone else, a royal screw job.

Just as long as dog food stays reasonably priced we'll be OK.

7 posted on 11/17/2010 6:53:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s bad when there is already enough money about, but apparently in the United States there is not.

This statement is not even worthy of a response.

8 posted on 11/17/2010 6:54:32 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Smokin' Joe
... unicorn Skittles too expensive for anyone.
9 posted on 11/17/2010 6:55:03 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I was calling the credit crunch crash from early 2007, so I’m not a perma-bull. I can do doom

Self-fulfilled prophecy, huh?

10 posted on 11/17/2010 6:55:16 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Smokin' Joe
Dow at 14,000, cup of coffee at 25...

...and gasoline at $8 a gallon.

11 posted on 11/17/2010 6:58:10 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wish some economic genius would explain why it is better to "monetize" the debt than to simply charge a tariff on imported goods?

I think I know how Madison and Jefferson would answer the question....

12 posted on 11/17/2010 7:00:37 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The DOW was at 11023 yesterday. It was 12398 forty five months ago when the Pelosi/Reid Cartel took control of Congress. I guess 1602 points in seven years is doable.


13 posted on 11/17/2010 7:00:45 AM PST by csmusaret (Tax revenue increased 39% from2002 to 2007 as a result of the Bush tax cuts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, am I to understand that the US can successfully resolve its long-term debt obligations by simply printing money, purchasing our own debt and paying interest to ourselves?


14 posted on 11/17/2010 7:06:26 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: FromLori
Karl Denninger Sees Dow at 3,000 Next Year

The DJI is merely treading water at 11,000 thanks to the help of the fed shenanigans, and this can't go on much longer. I cannot think of a single economic reason for it to rise, but I can think of many reasons why it could plunge, when the fed finally has to remove the support jacks and abandon the efforts.

Is a drop to 3,000 a reasonable prediction? I think so. The entire world's financial health is FUBAR.
15 posted on 11/17/2010 7:07:10 AM PST by ZX12R (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If.....

The Bush tax cuts are extended for all, for more than two years, and....

Dodd-Frank and Obamacare are repealed, and.....

A tax moratorium on repatriated foreign capital is instituted, then.....

I’d be bullish too. Only then.


16 posted on 11/17/2010 7:11:46 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: wayoverontheright

Yepper, right after Sarah Palin is elected.


17 posted on 11/17/2010 7:13:59 AM PST by Roklok
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To: SeekAndFind

Lot of Doomsters in Greece and Spain making money too. Obviously this guy has been buying gold.

Pray for America


18 posted on 11/17/2010 7:14:34 AM PST by bray (A November to Remember)
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To: blam

Ping. Your thoughts?


19 posted on 11/17/2010 7:15:03 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: central_va

If we re-elect Obama and keep printing money the dog may BECOME the food...


20 posted on 11/17/2010 7:19:59 AM PST by 2dollarbill
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