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Time to Upgrade Outmoded Military Aircraft
The Chosun IIlbo ^ | 11/15/2010 | The Chosun IIlbo

Posted on 11/15/2010 6:28:26 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Two Air Force pilots were killed when an RF-4C reconnaissance plane crashed into a mountain in North Jeolla Province on Friday during a low-altitude training mission. The Air Force is investigating whether the crash was due to mechanical problems or pilot error. The crash was the third one so far this year for the Air Force after F5 fighter jets crashed in March and June. The three crashes this year involved different aircraft, but all are more than 30 years old.

The RF-4C was produced in the U.S. in 1966, and the Air Force bought and recycled them in 1990s after the U.S. Forces Korea retired them in 1989. Spain bought the same reconnaissance aircraft at around the same time and retired them in 2002, but the Korean Air Force still operates 20 to monitor North Korea.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.chosun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f4; koreanpeninsula; phantom; rok; rokaf; rokmilitary; skorea; southkorea
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To: rlmorel; Blood of Tyrants

Yep........nasty noise. Called em Tweets as trainer versions and dragonfly as the one with teeth....

.. Super high pitch taxi.

U2’s on takeoff are also very very loud as stated. Yet when they were sliding back in the pattern you’d relize how a cave man felt when a pterodactyl etc was coming in for the kill....just a huge shadow over you. No noise at all in some cases.......:o)


21 posted on 11/15/2010 7:24:55 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: rlmorel

The F-4 proves the adage, Give it enough thrust, and even a brick can be made to fly.


22 posted on 11/15/2010 7:26:13 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I was in an EA-6B squadron. BIG, loud, clumsy aircraft.

Yeah, but it was the EW warfare aircraft of choice by both the U.S. Navy AND Air Force during the two gulf wars. Could fry the electronics of everything Iraq had.

23 posted on 11/15/2010 7:27:18 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Blood of Tyrants
RQ-4 Global Hawk


24 posted on 11/15/2010 7:33:16 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

And now they try to turn an F-18 into an ECM aircraft. (shakes head)


25 posted on 11/15/2010 7:35:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Redcitizen

ROTFLMAO! Having went to see Blue Oyster Cult one time about 15 rows from the stage and spending the next several days in conversation with people that consisted mostly of “WHAT?”, I would say, most definitely, yes!


26 posted on 11/15/2010 7:42:43 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

I forgot this part (from the link): South Korea’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) had expressed interest in acquiring at least four RQ-4B and support equipment by 2011 to increase the intelligence capabilities of the South Korean military...


27 posted on 11/15/2010 7:46:25 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: rlmorel
Yup, you can follow the smoke trail of any F-4 back to the factory.
28 posted on 11/15/2010 7:49:12 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (What flavor Kool-aid are you drinking?)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
"Yea-- though I fly through the Red River Valley....
I will fear no evil;
For a clean RF-4 is one fast SOB!"

RF-4 FAST SOB

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Alone... Unarmed... and Unafraid...

Phantom Sunset

We kill 'em with fil-m...

We spy 'em.... You fry 'em!

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Loved those rhino's!!

They can hang all those satellites in a wall locker!

29 posted on 11/15/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: All

It sounds like there are a few aviation fans or history buffs in here...I just posted this thread at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2627766/posts

that some of you might find interesting...I am trying to get some distribution of it to see if any other Freepers may have seen the pictures I have posted. It just occurred to me tonight that these may never have seen the light of day...

Now, sorry for the interruption, back to the originally scheduled discussions in this thread!


30 posted on 11/15/2010 8:13:43 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: rlmorel

=) That slogan; if its too loud, you’re too old might apply there.


31 posted on 11/15/2010 8:23:32 PM PST by Redcitizen (The Democrats got the Tea virus- they're zombies!)
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To: Redcitizen

I think I might have been 22 or 23 at the time...:)


32 posted on 11/15/2010 8:30:23 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
Yeah, but it was the EW warfare aircraft of choice by both the U.S. Navy AND Air Force during the two gulf wars.

Not quite. The Marine Corps and the Navy flew the Prowler during Desert Storm. The Air Force was still flying the EF-111. Following the retirement of the Raven in 1998 the EA-6B was deemed a national asset. The decision was then made to allow Air Force crews to operate Navy Prowlers in what are known as Purple expeditionary squadrons but the aircraft belong to and are maintained by the Navy. The Air Force does not have a dedicated SEAD platform.

33 posted on 11/15/2010 9:36:49 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“I was in an EA-6B squadron. BIG, loud, clumsy aircraft.”

The Flying Drumstick!


34 posted on 11/15/2010 9:50:00 PM PST by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Actually, the EF-111 was better than the EA-6B for land purposes. 10 transmitters vs 6 (typical). Much longer legs and more on station time, and supersonic ability to get out of the way if you got too far in.


35 posted on 11/15/2010 9:52:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The concrete EA-6B squadrons only had 4 USAF officers in each. The rest of the squadron was all Navy.


36 posted on 11/15/2010 9:54:34 PM PST by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: Mr Rogers

Wow, one entire aircrew per squadron? That was mighty white of the zoomies.


37 posted on 11/15/2010 10:32:19 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Don’t forget - by the mid-90s, the USAF had recognized that stealth technology made all EW obsolete. Unfortunately, someone forgot to tell the bad guys...


38 posted on 11/15/2010 10:42:37 PM PST by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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To: rlmorel
We, as the attack community, apologize.
39 posted on 11/16/2010 8:57:31 AM PST by a6intruder (downtown with big bombs, 24/7, rain or shine, day or night)
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To: a6intruder

I’ll tell you...I thought the A-6 was the best carrier based attack aircraft ever made. When you saw one completely loaded with clusters of MK82’s hanging off of every wing point, it was an impressive looking plane indeed.

Plus, they looked like the could handle pretty well in the hands of someone who knew how to do it...


40 posted on 11/16/2010 9:15:52 AM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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