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Time to Upgrade Outmoded Military Aircraft
The Chosun IIlbo ^ | 11/15/2010 | The Chosun IIlbo

Posted on 11/15/2010 6:28:26 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Two Air Force pilots were killed when an RF-4C reconnaissance plane crashed into a mountain in North Jeolla Province on Friday during a low-altitude training mission. The Air Force is investigating whether the crash was due to mechanical problems or pilot error. The crash was the third one so far this year for the Air Force after F5 fighter jets crashed in March and June. The three crashes this year involved different aircraft, but all are more than 30 years old.

The RF-4C was produced in the U.S. in 1966, and the Air Force bought and recycled them in 1990s after the U.S. Forces Korea retired them in 1989. Spain bought the same reconnaissance aircraft at around the same time and retired them in 2002, but the Korean Air Force still operates 20 to monitor North Korea.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.chosun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f4; koreanpeninsula; phantom; rok; rokaf; rokmilitary; skorea; southkorea
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1 posted on 11/15/2010 6:28:31 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

With aircraft like the Predator and super-snooper-satellites, why do we need 45 year old, outdated and obsolete aircraft like the RF-4C for reconnaissance?


2 posted on 11/15/2010 6:33:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I believe these are South Korean ones they refer to.


3 posted on 11/15/2010 6:34:58 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The article is refering to the ROKAF


4 posted on 11/15/2010 6:37:20 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I must say, even today, I would like to see a Phantom streak by trailing the usual black smoke from those J-79’s.

Those were LOUD. Nothing holds a candle to them for sheer noise!


5 posted on 11/15/2010 6:37:22 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Ro-kay, Rorge.


6 posted on 11/15/2010 6:39:35 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
I'd like to see them upgrade this, and fly it again.


7 posted on 11/15/2010 6:39:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: rlmorel

“Those were LOUD. Nothing holds a candle to them for sheer noise!”

I lived less than half a mile from the end of a military runway in the early ‘80s (Millington, TN) and heard pretty much every type of aircraft any of the branches ever flew. But the single LOUDEST aircraft of them all has to be the AV-8B Harrier.


8 posted on 11/15/2010 6:42:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

LOL! I might have to concede that when they were in hover mode!

Another plane that had unusually loud engines to me was the A-6. I think it was those exhausts that were angles slightly outwards. I stupidly stuck my head up one time as one of those went off the waist cat and I was in the catwalk. My headgear got turned sideways on my head...

In retrospect, I remember seeing everyone duck down, but I stood there like a rube not getting it. I’ll tell you, I never did THAT again.


9 posted on 11/15/2010 6:54:56 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: UCANSEE2

No kidding...what a beautiful aircraft. It looks like a spaceship.


10 posted on 11/15/2010 6:55:56 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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Some say it was just shy of being the first orbital aircraft that could reach space unassisted.

I bet with some current technology right now it could. Add some heat tiles and it could also do a re-entry.

And with a gatling gun!


11 posted on 11/15/2010 7:00:02 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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“No kidding...what a beautiful aircraft. It looks like a spaceship.”

Unreal a brain, a slide rule and a #2 pencil.


12 posted on 11/15/2010 7:01:16 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: rlmorel

I was Navy, also. Aboard Big John in ‘86. I was in an EA-6B squadron. BIG, loud, clumsy aircraft.


13 posted on 11/15/2010 7:02:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Loudest USAF AC was the A-37 in my experience. THAT was one loud futhrmukr ! F-4’s, U2’s (Also very loud on take off)....older versions of the KC-135’s before new engines were introduced were LOUD as well.

But the A-37 was it on the meter. It hurt folks not wearing their ears. Painful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_A-37_Dragonfly


14 posted on 11/15/2010 7:03:02 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

I forgot about that loud little mother.


15 posted on 11/15/2010 7:04:39 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Heh, I was too in the Seventies...ahh, Palma!


16 posted on 11/15/2010 7:06:20 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: Squantos

No kidding! Those little ol Dragonfiles?

I always thought those were pretty cool planes, never saw one fly, but I do recall seeing a few at Oshkosh...:)


17 posted on 11/15/2010 7:08:09 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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On the Big John, that is. I was on deck when that Tomcat went over the side in 1976...I was sleeping in the cockpit of my plane lined up next to the waist cat.

My plane shuddered violently, and I jerked up and looked back at the cat just in time to see the tail of the Tomcat disappear over the side with everyone running to the side.


18 posted on 11/15/2010 7:11:43 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Great way to put it!


19 posted on 11/15/2010 7:12:23 PM PST by rlmorel (When charity is mandatory, it becomes servitude.)
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To: rlmorel

Would you say Heavy metal headbanging kind of sheer noise?


20 posted on 11/15/2010 7:20:35 PM PST by Redcitizen (The Democrats got the Tea virus- they're zombies!)
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