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Report says Muslims want to reject Western society, compares them to Mennonites
Jihad Watch ^ | November 15, 2010 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 11/15/2010 12:03:49 PM PST by La Lydia

"Because who among us," remarks Kathy Shaidle, "can forget the fateful day when Mennonites drove their horse drawn buggies into the lobbies of the World Trade Center...?"

"Muslims Told To Reject West: Report," by Stewart Bell in the National Post, November 14 (thanks to Kathy Shaidle):

"A newly released intelligence report says hard-line Islamist groups want to build a "parallel society" in Canada, which could undermine the country's social cohesion and foster violence. The de-classified Intelligence Assessment obtained by the National Post says extremists have been encouraging Muslims in the West to reject Western society and to live in "self-imposed isolation."

"The report focuses on groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood and Hizb-ut-Tahrir, which do not advocate terrorist violence but promote an ideology at odds with core Western values.

"Even if the use of violence is not outwardly expressed, the creation of isolated communities can spawn groups that are exclusivist and potentially open to messages in which violence is advocated," it says.

"At a minimum, the existence of such mini-societies undermines resilience and the fostering of a cohesive Canadian nation."

"The report was written by the Integrated Threat Assessment Centre, which monitors threats to Canada's national security and is composed of representatives of CSIS, the RCMP, Foreign Affairs, National Defence and other agencies.

It was circulated internally last year after Hizb-ut-Tahrir invited Muslims to a conference in Mississauga, Ont., to discuss the establishment of an Islamic caliphate. A copy of the document was recently released under the Access to Information Act...

It says Islamists believe that Islam should govern all aspects of society and that Sharia law and state law should be "synchronized." Extremists forced to flee Muslim-majority countries such as Egypt now preach these beliefs in the West, it says, adding, "By definition, their world views clash with secular ones. A competition for the hearts and minds of the diaspora Muslims has hence begun."

That competition has surfaced in the United Kingdom, where the outlawed Al Muhajiroun told Muslims not to submit to any "man-made law," while in Denmark some Muslims are administering their own form of justice, it says....

The report notes that Mennonites and Doukhobors have also sought to isolate themselves form the mainstream. "Why then, should Canadians be worried about Islamist extremists who reject democracy or isolate themselves from non-Muslims?" it asks....


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falseanalogy; izlam; terror; violence
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Last time I heard, Mennonites were still subject to civil and criminal law in the US and Canada.p>

...circulated internally last year after Hizb-ut-Tahrir invited Muslims to a conference in Mississauga, Ont., to discuss the establishment of an Islamic caliphate.

WHY ARE THESE BASTARDS HERE. If they want to reject Western society, and all its freedoms and benefits, let them return to their native hell hole countries and cut themselves off from all contact with the West. Make everybody happy!

1 posted on 11/15/2010 12:03:56 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

There’s NO comparison between Mennonites and the moongod worshippers.

Mennonites want only to be left alone. They bother no one, they keep to themselves and practice their CHRISTIAN religion, they work hard with their hands, and they darn sure don’t scream Jihad and blow people up and behead them.


2 posted on 11/15/2010 12:09:10 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: La Lydia

Mennonites in this day and age are locals. Islamic supremacist/separatist colonies are being foreign funded by Saudi Arabia and foreign populated. They are colonizing break-away societies in this country.

Read my tagline.


3 posted on 11/15/2010 12:13:31 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: La Lydia
"The report focuses on groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood and Hizb-ut-Tahrir, which do not advocate terrorist violence but promote an ideology at odds with core Western values."

"Even if the use of violence is not outwardly expressed, the creation of isolated communities can spawn groups that are exclusivist and potentially open to messages in which violence is advocated," it says.

Whomever wrote that 'report' either has a hard time reading or doesn't understand what the next line says.

So the bold line is what? Nuance?
4 posted on 11/15/2010 12:14:02 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Nervous Tick
There’s NO comparison

To even try to compare peaceful people of faith to the Islamic death cult is an insult to all who support the First Amendment.

5 posted on 11/15/2010 12:14:23 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: kbennkc

To even try to compare peaceful people of faith to the Islamic death cult is an insult to all who support the First Amendment.

Yet still, Obama, Holder, Napolitano, and company will bend over backwards to not offend Abdul Bombjacket, but crack down on the real threat of Abraham Yoder for not sponging off the system and raising organic food in defiance of the Food Safety Act.


6 posted on 11/15/2010 12:20:09 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: kbennkc
Mennonites raise vegetables.
Muzzies go to hell.
7 posted on 11/15/2010 12:20:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: La Lydia

Don’t Mennonites require their followers to follow the law of the land?

Whereas, muslims demand seperate laws, or imposition of thier laws.

No comparison between the two, at all.


8 posted on 11/15/2010 12:21:54 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Mennonites are one thing, it's the Amish Terrorist I'm worried about:


9 posted on 11/15/2010 12:22:44 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: maddog55

:-)


10 posted on 11/15/2010 12:26:08 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: La Lydia

Last I checked, Mennonites didn’t cut peoples’ heads off and fly airplanes into skyscrapers..............maybe a buggy............


11 posted on 11/15/2010 12:26:18 PM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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To: La Lydia

Mennonites and Amish are not anti Western culture. They exist because God and Western culture have made it possible for them to continue on in peace. The Anabaptists have no desire to destroy Western culture or modernization. Muslims, members of a particularly sick, satanic religion, would have mankind back in the stone age, controlled by tyrants who answer only to Satan and his demons. No thanks! Western cultures that seek to destroy their Christian culture will eventually become Islamic, and reap the whirlwind of ignorance.


12 posted on 11/15/2010 12:26:56 PM PST by pallis
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To: La Lydia

Hitchin’ up the buggy, churnin’ lots of butter
Raised the barn on Monday, soon I’ll raise another
Think you’re really righteous? Think you’re pure in heart?
Well, I know I’m a million times as humble as thou art
I’m the pious guy the little Amlettes wanna be like
On my knees day and night scorin’ points for the afterlife
So don’t be vain and don’t be whiny
Or else, my brother, I might have to get medieval on your hiney

We’ve been spending most our lives
Living in an Amish paradise
We’re all crazy Mennonites
Living in an Amish paradise
There’s no cops or traffic lights
Living in an Amish paradise


13 posted on 11/15/2010 12:30:41 PM PST by almcbean
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Mennonites raise vegetables.
Muzzies raise swords.
14 posted on 11/15/2010 12:30:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: La Lydia
If they want to reject Western society, and all its freedoms and benefits, let them return to their native hell hole countries and cut themselves off from all contact with the West.

Seriously. They need to be removed from Western countries. Immigration from muslim countries needs to be near zero. Anything more is perverse.

The slap at mennonites is stupid. Mennonites don't murder innocents, and they don't want to rule you. Muslims are not wired for freedom and they do want to rule you. In anything more than small numbers they begin to attack whatever society that allows them in.

15 posted on 11/15/2010 12:33:04 PM PST by marron
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To: La Lydia

>WHY ARE THESE BASTARDS HERE.<

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The new Congress must not ignore this question and seriously discuss this growing threat to our society before it becomes irreversible.


16 posted on 11/15/2010 12:33:37 PM PST by 353FMG (In the end, it will be either ISLAM or America -- it cannot be both.)
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To: La Lydia

Seriously, there are, what, 21 muslim countries in the world to choose from?

If they want to live in muslim paradise, there are plenty of places to go. Let them.


17 posted on 11/15/2010 12:36:05 PM PST by marron
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To: La Lydia

Exactly. They do not like our ways, let them go back home. Unlike in the old Soviet Union, anyone in this country is free to leave. Nobody is forcing them to stay.


18 posted on 11/15/2010 12:36:24 PM PST by Dante3
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To: La Lydia

Me - taught by a mennonite that loved all of her students.

My sister - taught by a muslim that flunked her because, and I quote, “women shouldn’t be in engineering”


19 posted on 11/15/2010 12:39:41 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: pallis

and the Amish vote GOP!!!


20 posted on 11/15/2010 12:40:43 PM PST by Fred (Suspend All Immigration Until Unemployment is Reduced to 5%)
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