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Now, I know full well that it's still better to have elected Paul rather than the alternative and I know that the Daily Caller is a RINO organ that hates the guts of the Tea Party and AP is a bunch of pro-terrorist SOBs who'd love to spread division and quarrels among conservatives BUT:

if this is true we have another libertarian who doesn't understand the proper role of government and the fallacy of cutting military expenditures, all the more at this time with the Afghan situation, to balance the budget. Secondly, amendment on balancing budget HOW? By cutting the armed forced down to size in the era of Bin Laden and Ahmadinejad? And one could "balance budgets" by increasing the fiscal pressure, and that is NOT the constitutional way to balance budgets.

I repeat: I could be wrong, and I would like to read the full text of Paul's statements, but I do hope he's not turning into his lunatic father. Compromise with the Dhimmicrats my @§§

1 posted on 11/07/2010 2:06:36 PM PST by fabrizio
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2 posted on 11/07/2010 2:08:19 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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Military spending has gone up because of two wars.

Shouldn’t the military be decreased as those wars wind down?


3 posted on 11/07/2010 2:12:27 PM PST by earlJam
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He is right. Nation building is ridiculous.


4 posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:05 PM PST by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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Considering we are in two wars now that are fairly pointless because we have an Islamic POTUS and Saudi mole plus open borders.

We are broke and there appears to be no strategy or plan except our troops cannot shoot back, bomb, use artilleryy etc.

I get the impression that FR is filled with people who work for defense companies sometimes with that union scum on the factory floor at UTX, Raytheon, Lockheed, Martin Marietta, Boeing, etc. Eff those union goons.


5 posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:19 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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I do not support cutting the actual constitutional parts of the budget. Military spending is not a huge part of the budget, social spending is. I would rather cut govt. employees of the myriad depts, but not defense, our military strength may be all that saves this nation if our economic strength is brought down by socialism.

In this I feel Paul is wrong, and we must not cave to the dems in any way.


6 posted on 11/07/2010 2:14:15 PM PST by Horusra (The Democrat party is now the National Socialist party (nationalize the banks, socialize healthcare))
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NO Rand Paul you @$$! Look elsewhere for funds (givaway entitlements) that can be cut. The military has already been cut and corrupted enough with the O-Bozo PCism and socialist agenda.


7 posted on 11/07/2010 2:14:38 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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I used to work in military manufacturing. The waste of money on unproductive paperwork is staggering. There is huge opportunity to get more for our money.
8 posted on 11/07/2010 2:15:43 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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You don’t think that some of our military spending is pure pork/waste?

How about let’s stop building a missile shield for Europe - they can afford to pay for it themselves. Or perhaps we can stop trying to fight Columbia’s drug war, considering that most of it is ineffective anyway.


9 posted on 11/07/2010 2:16:59 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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Senator-elect Paul would be wise to remember, or to learn if his education was deficient on the point, that the armed services have express sanction in the Constitution and a vital role to play in keeping this nation’s citizens free and prosperous. For him to place the mission of the armed forces on the same level of legitimacy as liberal’s extra-constitutional social programs is not merely ignorant—it’s damned ludicrous.


10 posted on 11/07/2010 2:17:49 PM PST by behzinlea
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I notice that he doesn’t have the balls to say exactly what he would cut in the military. Jets? Warships? Nuclear weapons? Troop numbers? Nuclear Submarines? Pay and benefits for troops? Cut spending for disabled veterans? Research and development of weapons? Run from Afghanistan and leave it to the Taliban and al Quaida? Watch China’s military grow exponentially while we shrink our own? If he can say military cuts should be on the table, then he needs to have the balls to say what gets cut, or else he needs to shut up. The people who elected this man should stand up and tell him the first federal cut should be in HIS pay check and HIS benefits.


12 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:46 PM PST by jiminycricket000
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The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.


17 posted on 11/07/2010 2:25:31 PM PST by dawn53
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Republicans, you were warned.


18 posted on 11/07/2010 2:25:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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I know very little about Paul....

but I do know this...

military spending is just as much out of hand as other govt spending and the pensions and medical benefits alone are astronomical...they are paid too soon, and are too large....

having said that, defense is a nations' first priority above all else...

20 posted on 11/07/2010 2:28:19 PM PST by cherry
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Not so fast. If it’s a government program you can guarantee there is massive spending waste somewhere. I have a brother who works for a company that lives off military contracts. They readily admit in some departments it takes no more then a half hour a day to do their jobs. That and they are paid 60.00 an hour with unlimited overtime for a mid talent, non college degree positions. He and my sister in law rake in 120,000 a year each and the toughest part of their day is the job justification meetings.


24 posted on 11/07/2010 2:30:47 PM PST by liberty or death
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Cut everything that is unconstitutional out of the budget. Then come talk to me about the defense portion of that spending.

But when you start with defense, your motives are highly suspect as far as I’m concerned.


26 posted on 11/07/2010 2:33:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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You can CUT $30-60 BILLION out of the military budget without EVER touching a true military program.

Democrats have loaded the military bills up with that much Pork in the last 4 years.


27 posted on 11/07/2010 2:33:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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20% across the board ACTUAL spending CUTS for ALL gov’t. If the Defense dept needs more they can explain why they need it just like all other revenue consumers. Limited gov’t means LIMITED gov’t. No one’s PORK is better than another’s. The US is broke. Everyone PAYS.


32 posted on 11/07/2010 2:38:11 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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Cutting the perks and salary of the politicians need to be on the table before any cutting of our military.

We need our military, we don’t need politician$ who make a career of instituting ‘control’ laws at our expense.


34 posted on 11/07/2010 2:38:51 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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This is not a surprise - Rand Paul appeared on the radical left-wing anti-war radio show and pledged to align with the left to cut military spending. It became an issue during the primary and the Paul campaign did a 180 degree turn in its rhetoric, shifting to the right in favor of a "strong national defense", etc. Previously he supported closing Gitmo, which he also changed his position on after it became an issue in the primary. I, as well as others, who pointed this about Paul during the primary were called liars by his merry little band of followers right here on this forum. Now that he's comfortably elected, he can go back to being his real self. You can probably still find the anti-war radio interview to confirm these are in fact his views if you do a search for it. It used to be posted on YouTube - not sure if it is still there or not. He was also not really adverse to prosecuting Bush and Cheney other than to say it is time to "move on" in the same interview when asked.

Like you, I'm glad we kept the seat, and it is certainly better than Conway, which is why I didn't really engage in any further active criticism after Paul won the primary fair and square. He's spot on, like his father, when it comes to domestic welfare program spending, repealing the health care law and implementing other reforms (like breaking the barrier between state lines)...not so much on other things.

35 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:46 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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cut the EPA, the NEA and repeal the EPA, cut the ATFE, cut the State Department, Cut NPR,Etc.

Leave the military alone.

Stay on the rails Rand!


36 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:48 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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