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Hard Data Supporting Fraudulent Activity in Nevada Election - ACTION NEEDED
<self> | 11/3/2010 | lexinom and Black_Shark

Posted on 11/03/2010 2:03:15 AM PDT by Lexinom

I put some effort into compiling this data and hope it may help prove, with hard data, that the Nevada "election" was not a one-legal-citizen, one-vote affair. I believe the Angle campaign has a case based on a comparison of the accuracy of polling of other races with that of their own, where the result was well outside the MOE of an aggregate of polls. Off one pull fine. Off seven by a wide margin, not kosher.

The first data points (EXHIBIT A) are from a sampling of races and the poll aggregates leading up to election day.

The second set of data points (EXHIBIT B) represent the polling for the Nevada race and shows a great deviation not only outside of the consistently polled trends but well beyond the margin of error of multiple, agreeing polls. I think the Angle campaign may have a case, and it's critical, if nothing else, that they use this golden opportunity before them to begin cleaning up the corruption that hampers the democratic process and disenfranchises thousands of legal citizens. PLEASE... Move forward with this!

EXHIBIT A - ACCURATE POLLING IN RACES FROM 2 NOVEMBER 2010(*)
Toomey/Sestak 
RCP Average             10/24 - 10/31	--	   49.5	45.0	Toomey +4.5
PPP (D)                 10/30 - 10/31	772 LV	51	46	Toomey +5
Morning Call Tracking   10/28 - 10/31	474 LV	48	44	Toomey +4
Quinnipiac              10/25 - 10/30	1244 LV     50	45	Toomey +5
Rasmussen Reports       10/28 - 10/28	750 LV	50	46	Toomey +4
McClatchy/Marist        10/26 - 10/28	461 LV	52	45	Toomey +7
Susquehanna             10/24 - 10/27	800 LV	46	44	Toomey +2
Toomey won by 2%.
( source )
Boxer/Fiorina race 
RCP Average		10/26 - 10/31	--	48.3	43.3	Boxer +5.0
PPP (D)			10/29 - 10/31	882 LV	50	46	Boxer +4
SurveyUSA		10/26 - 10/31	587 LV	46	38	Boxer +8
Rasmussen Reports	10/27 - 10/27	750 LV	49	46	Boxer +3
"The AP called the race as Boxer took a lead of 48 percent to 46 percent, with 15 percent of precincts reporting."
( source )

Rubio/Crist/Meek 
RCP Average		10/25 - 10/31	--	47.0	30.0	19.2	Rubio +17.0
PPP (D)			10/30 - 10/31	773 LV	47	30	21	Rubio +17
Sunshine State News/VSS	10/29 - 10/31	1527 LV	48	31	20	Rubio +17
Quinnipiac		10/25 - 10/31	925 LV	45	31	18	Rubio +14
Rasmussen Reports	10/27 - 10/27	750 LV	50	30	16	Rubio +20
Mason-Dixon		10/25 - 10/27	625 LV	45	28	21	Rubio +17
Rubio won by 19%.
Marco Rubio	REP	2,604,892 (49.00%)	
Kendrick B. Meek	DEM	1,070,242 (20.13%)

( source )

Kirk/Giannoulias 
RCP Average			10/18 - 10/31	--	44.8	41.5	Kirk +3.3
PPP (D)				10/30 - 10/31	814 LV	46	42	Kirk +4
FOX News/POR-Rasmussen		10/30 - 10/30	1000 LV	46	42	Kirk +4
Chicago Tribune			10/18 - 10/22	700 LV	44	41	Kirk +3
Post-Dispatch/Mason-Dixon	10/18 - 10/20	625 LV	43	41	Kirk +2
Kirk won by 2%.
Kirk (R)	1,749,941	48.4%	 
Giannoulias (D)	1,667,527	46.1%
( source)

Blumenthal/ McMahon
RCP Average		10/24 - 10/31 — 53.0 44.3 Blumenthal +8.7
Rasmussen Reports		10/31 - 10/31 750 LV 53 46 Blumenthal +7
Quinnipiac			10/25 - 10/31 930 LV 53 44 Blumenthal +9
PPP (D) 			10/27 - 10/29 759 LV 54 43 Blumenthal +11
CT Capitol Report/MRG 		10/24 - 10/26 1846 LV 52 44 Blumenthal +8
Blumenthal by 8%

Johnson/Feingold
RCP Average 			10/25 - 10/28 — 52.7 45.0 Johnson +7.7
McClatchy/Marist 		10/26 - 10/28 491 LV 52 45 Johnson +7
PPP (D) 			10/26 - 10/28 1372 LV 53 44 Johnson +9
Rasmussen Reports 		10/25 - 10/25 750 LV 53 46 Johnson +7
Johnson by 5%

Coons/O’Donnell
RCP Average 			10/14 - 10/27 — 53.0 39.0 Coons +14.0
Monmouth University 		10/25 - 10/27 1171 LV 51 41 Coons +10
Fairleigh Dickinson 		10/20 - 10/26 797 LV 57 36 Coons +21
Rasmussen Reports 		10/14 - 10/14 500 LV 51 40 Coons +11
Coons by 16%

Burr/Marshall
RCP Average 		10/12 - 10/31 — 50.3 37.5 Burr +12.8
PPP (D) 		10/29 - 10/31 847 LV 52 40 Burr +12
SurveyUSA 		10/22 - 10/25 590 LV 53 38 Burr +15
Civitas (R) 		10/18 - 10/20 600 LV 44 34 Burr +10
Rasmussen Reports	10/12 - 10/12 500 LV 52 38 Burr +14
Burr by 12%

These demonstrate the veracity of the polling mechanisms. All margin of victories closely matched the leadup polling.

EXHIBIT B: POLLING AND RESULT OF NEVADA SENATE RACE, 2 NOVEMBER 2010(*)

RCP Average             10/25 - 10/31     48.0 45.3 Angle +2.7
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PPP (D)                 10/30 - 10/31 682 LV  47 46 Angle +1
FOX News/POR-Rasmussen  10/30 - 10/30 1000 LV 48 45 Angle +3
LVRJ/Mason-Dixon        10/25 - 10/27 625 LV  49 45 Angle +4
Rasmussen Reports       10/25 - 10/25 750 LV  49 45 Angle +4
CNN/Time                10/20 - 10/26 773 LV  49 45 Angle +4
Rasmussen Reports       10/17 - 10/17 750 LV  50 47 Angle +3
LVRJ/Mason-Dixon        10/11 - 10/12 625 LV  48 46 Angle +2
Rasmussen Reports       10/11 - 10/11 750 LV  49 48 Angle +1<

Result: Angle -5 ( source )

Counted Ballots         11/2                  45 50 Angle -5

7 polls by professional and reputable pollsters are off by an average of 7.7% And we are to lend credibility to this result? Not one poll, not two. SEVEN, each with a typically small MOE.

It's in Sharron's hands at this moment, but from what I've seen in the past - Rossi/Gregoire (2004) was enough. I say Franken/Coleman (2008) - was enough to convince me of enough.

It's time for accountability and action.

*All polls in this and previous posts by lexinom and Black_Shark are from Real Clear Politics. All credit is to be given to them and their team for compiling this data. We are just copying it here for evidence.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: angle; disenfranchisement; electionfraud; fraud; reid; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: r9etb
Look at the sample size of polls and the control group of accurate polls for other races. If it were just one poll that had her winning then your point would hold merit. We're talking about seven polls, though, from different firms and probably slight variations in methodologies that were all in agreement in having Angle up in this race.
81 posted on 11/03/2010 9:20:10 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

Here is a link to NEVADA ELECTION LAW FELONIES...
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-293.html#NRS293Sec755

Any citizen who can find an election crime would be wise to speak to the law enforcement leaders to bring an arrest, and seize the equipement as evidence. I’m not from Nevada.


82 posted on 11/03/2010 9:20:49 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Reb Raider

Here is link to Nevada Election Law felonies:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-293.html#NRS293Sec755

There should be an investigation, and if there is ANY VOTER FRAUD, that can be proven, such as illegal voter, voting twice or voting not under proper name, it may force law enforcement to act. A petition to investigate could help, if any evidence arises.


83 posted on 11/03/2010 9:25:18 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Lexinom

Can anything be done after a candidate concedes?

Typically with the ‘Rats, it seems that when they steal a race, they REALLY steal a race.

Why? To avoid recounts and closer looks which could expose their shenanigans.


84 posted on 11/03/2010 9:30:26 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Kackikat
Great work!

We have, from your digging:

NRS 293.750 Removal or destruction of election supplies or equipment.

NRS 293.755 Tampering or interfering with certain election equipment or computer programs used to count ballots; report of violation to district attorney.

NRS 293.760 Alteration, defacement or removal of posted results of votes cast.

NRS 293.770 Refusal of person sworn by election board to answer questions.

NRS 293.780 Voting more than once at same election.

NRS 293.790 Offer to vote by person whose vote has been rejected.

NRS 293.800 Acts concerning registration of voters; violations of laws governing elections; crimes by public officers.

NRS 293.805 Compensation for registration of voters based upon number of voters or voters of a particular party registered.

85 posted on 11/03/2010 9:32:26 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
They had to steal this one. A victory by someone so closely identified with the Tea Party would have been devastating. The removal of Obama's security blanket Harry Reid would have been devastating.

Anyone following this race based on polling data from MULTIPLE polls from MULTIPLE firms expected Angle to win this.

Angle did win this in an objective sense of legal citizen votes.

If I lived in Las Vegas I'd be all over doing an investigation on the ground instead of typing messages on FR. I'd be in contact with the Angle campaign's attorneys and would come up with a way to offer a reward to anyone with hard evidence of fraud.

86 posted on 11/03/2010 9:37:29 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Look at the sample size of polls and the control group of accurate polls for other races. If it were just one poll that had her winning then your point would hold merit. We're talking about seven polls, though, from different firms and probably slight variations in methodologies that were all in agreement in having Angle up in this race.

I'm still going to to blame the sampling methods, as opposed to calling out "fraud."

At root, the methodologies aren't that different, really: to collect most (not all) of the data, the polling organizations have all still got to call folks on the phone.

So the question is: is there, in Nevada, some systemic factor that affects who you can call, and who is likely to answer, that was not accounted-for in the polls? For example, is there a "no-call list" law that favors land-lines over cell phones, or vice versa? Is there a particular demographic of voters that somehow are less likely to be reached by telephone?

I'm willing to bet that the answer to the poll discrepancy lies in that sort of phenomenon, rather than fraud.

An interesting and highly relevant example is the famous Literary Digest poll of 1936, that predicted Landon would defeat Roosevelt in a landslide.

The sampling methodology was very carefully constructed, but the problem was that the sample population was selected mainly from automobile registration and phone books. The surveys were mailed out, and results were drawn from those who returned their surveys, and the response rate was low. The combination of these three, led to a disastrously wrong prediction.

Pollsters have been trying to deal with similar problems in recent years. Lots of people refuse to participate, and many hang up when they recognize that tell-tale pause between answering and the time when the pollster hits the line.

87 posted on 11/03/2010 9:50:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lexinom

I’m not saying that nothing dastardly took place. I am saying that poll numbers do not under any circumstances constitute hard facts.


88 posted on 11/03/2010 10:16:01 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: r9etb
Why the disparity, then, against the backdrop of the relative accuracy of the polling in other races? Surely they, too, would contain one or more of these additional factors. Why just Nevada? For your theory to hold up we'd need to compare previous Nevada races and see if their outcomes, likewise, deviated widely from the preceding polling data.

My theory: Fraud was indeed committed on a large scale in a few high profile, hand-picked races. For political reasons, those who were most harshly attacked and ridiculed could not be allowed to win. Hence the $1 million cash infusion to Reid race on Monday - too late to buy advertising time. What was that money for, then, and where did it go?

89 posted on 11/03/2010 10:20:15 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: wtc911

No, but we need to use the language. The Left has been doing this for years. Ayn Rand said something to the effect that whoever controls the language controls the culture. It is true something is not “hard” if there’s a 0.000001% chance it may be wrong, but for all intents and purposes, it is hard, if that makes any sense. We cannot afford to continue being wimps.


90 posted on 11/03/2010 10:22:41 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: wtc911

I believe that Lexinom is correct and while Polls would not hold in a court of Law they certaintly would get people thinking. If multiple polls were this far off in NV and not other states then that implies something isnt right. In the latest poll by Mason-Dixon, they predicted that Heck would win the right to represent Nevada in the House. Heck won. The other recent polls from Nevada were accurate, why not this one?


92 posted on 11/03/2010 10:42:26 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: sf4dubya; Loyal Sedition

I found this comment informative:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2620289/posts?page=61#61

“Another seat we could have won with any other Republican.”

Not true.

“any other Republican” would probably have lost by an even larger margin.

Dingy Harry lost in 15 of 17 counties.

He ALWAYS wins in the same two counties, Clark and Washoe, the only two (liberal dominated) counties he really makes any effort to help.

He has enabled Clark County to grow beyond it’s rational limits.
He has contrived to steal water from rural Nevada counties for the sole benefit of Clark County.

He has “sold” Nevada’s public land to developers so that Clark County continues to grow, enlarging his true base and enriching himself in the process.

He has steered grants and funding to Washoe County (Reno) while doing virtually NOTHING for the rural counties.

By virtue of these shenanigans he virtually owns the vote in Clark and Washoe.

Combined with the MSM bias and “republican” support this race shows he is in for life, probably less than another full term.

61 posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:14:29 AM by Loyal Sedition
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93 posted on 11/03/2010 10:43:56 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: sf4dubya
It kills me how Reno folks could vote Republican across the board for all other offices, but they didn’t for US Senator.

Perhaps the good people of Reno felt that Sharron Angle was not for them.

Sure, you could blame Reno for that .... but maybe Ms. Angle is also part of the explanation.

94 posted on 11/03/2010 10:49:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lexinom

There were a LOT of voters disenfranchised. The ones I’m most irate about are out troops, who were denied a right to vote by states like my own, NY, which didn’t send them their ballots at all. This is NOT the way our country was meant to be and it is something that has to be addressed from every angle. AND we have to make sure that people who are voting are actually citizens and have the right to vote.


95 posted on 11/03/2010 11:57:46 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: chilltherats

“The rats started busing illegals into vote at secret polling places since the beginning of early voting. Most were bussed from the casinos and hotels where they work. Pubs should have been watching for this but they didn’t even notice it for four days, and then all they did was file a complaint with the SOS. Then their were the machines switching votes to Reid. They should have gone to court to have those machines seized immediately. They did nothing.”

How in the world can these things go on under all of our collective noses? Even if Reid is finally declared the winner, we need to set examples of this fraud up on pedastals for the all to see...just to see how desperate for power these socialist monger moralizers are.


96 posted on 11/03/2010 1:00:51 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Yesterday we voted-TODAY we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chron. 7:14!)
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To: chilltherats

Here are the propagandists:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-holds-off-challenger-angle-106597348.html
“No substantial complaints of Election Day irregularities were reported to the secretary of state’s office, although a complaint about last week’s early get out the vote efforts by Las Vegas casino companies backing Reid was filed with the U.S. Department of Justice.”

Didn’t LVRJ endorse Angle? Wow, I will hold my breath waiting on Holder to dig into that complaint against Harrah’s...


97 posted on 11/03/2010 1:05:06 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Yesterday we voted-TODAY we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chron. 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

More from the LVRJ article:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-holds-off-challenger-angle-106597348.html

“The key to Reid’s victory Tuesday, however, goes beyond his get-out-the-vote effort this year and dates back to 2002 when he began to rebuild the state Democratic Party from the ground.

His effort culminated in 2008 when the Democrats registered thousands of new voters, giving them a 100,000 registered voter edge over Republicans and helping Obama win the state, thanks mostly to first time voters, Hispanics, blacks and other minority voters that Reid won again this time.

The Democrats still have 60,000 more registered voters than Republicans now and Hispanics organizers registered 10,000 more Latinos in 2010, making them an electoral force.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++

I’m sure all those 10,000 additional voters were totally up and up! Voter registration, validation, proof of ID etc., motor voter laws, instant registration laws without proof of ID, are COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL IN MANY states.

Fair elections - dealing with this election FRAUD must be a key focus of the Tea Parties into the future.

Our fight for the soul of this nation has only just begun..


98 posted on 11/03/2010 1:09:37 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Yesterday we voted-TODAY we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chron. 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

They do this at every election. The pubs do nothing.


99 posted on 11/03/2010 1:46:17 PM PDT by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: Lexinom

Let me know what I can do, but i’m east coast. Do you have a local conservative radio show that can ask voters to call in, if they hear or know about any election violations.

Find out who was at the polls for the Republican side monitering what was going on, and see if they saw anything.

Maybe an ad in local news to ask voters if they saw or know of any irregularities in election.

Check names against death certificates in that county for registered voters, to see if any dead people voted.

Best Wishes, and I am praying for something to be brought out into the open.


100 posted on 11/03/2010 2:00:51 PM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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