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Stunning
American Thinker ^ | Oct 30, 2010 | Michael Geer

Posted on 10/30/2010 4:03:35 PM PDT by Rashputin

Stunning Michael Geer

The Vatican has called for Israel to end its occupation of "Arab lands," noting that all of what we define currently as Israel is "Arab land."

That the Bible must not be used to justify either their ‘occupation' nor their ‘injustices' against Palestinians.

"The Holy Scriptures cannot be used to justify the return of Jews to Israel and the displacement of the Palestinians, to justify the occupation by Israel of Palestinian lands," Monsignor Cyril Salim Bustros, Greek Melkite archbishop of Our Lady of the Annunciation in Boston, Massachusetts, and president of the "Commission for the Message," said at Saturday's Vatican press conference.

"We Christians cannot speak of the ‘promised land' as an exclusive right for a privileged Jewish people. This promise was nullified by Christ. There is no longer a chosen people - all men and women of all countries have become the chosen people."

You've just been witness to a significant event in the End Times unfolding, amigo. The Vatican stating that Israel is "no longer a chosen people".

The Vatican has just nullified the Bible, and elevated Replacement Theology in full public view.

This is .... stunning.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: archbishopbustros; bustros; catholic; israel; vatican
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To: GeronL
"The Catholic Church could be the biblical anti-Christ"

While that's a widely held and lovingly nourished belief among Fundamentalists and others, it's simply Reformation propaganda. The reason it hangs on and gets so lovingly fed is because it's seductive to agree rather than study and better still, it lets everyone ignore Islam which even Mooham himself thought was from Satan until he was granted enough goodies to just not worry about little matters like that any more.

READ the Koran and then tell me where the anti-Christ will come from, don't quote the traditional money making easy stuff that is always good to conspiracy theorists. You want a conspiracy? Consider why Islam was totally ignored by the great authors spewing prophecy books by the hundreds in favor of Rapture and anti-Catholic theories right up until 9-11. Ratzinger has said more against Islam since he became pope than have most of the nitwits who make a living selling prophecy books.

There is plenty written about Islam by early Church fathers so why was that always ignored in favor of whatever propaganda came with the Reformation? Come on. Read the damn Bible and pray, don't eat the baby food passed around at the Church Gimmie More.

Regards

21 posted on 10/30/2010 4:25:18 PM PDT by Rashputin ( Palin/DeMint 2012 (if you can find someone as good to run the Senate, that is))
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To: Quix
Thanks for the ping Quix.

We are witnessing the fulfillment of Zechariah 14:2.

Everything falling into place so quickly now....

22 posted on 10/30/2010 4:28:39 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: fml

Well, at least it’s not in Salt Lake City.


23 posted on 10/30/2010 4:30:50 PM PDT by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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To: Tribemike1

Anyone even know who the Khazars were?


24 posted on 10/30/2010 4:32:16 PM PDT by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: tired1

The poster apparently doesn’t....he sets up the false disjunction of ...either you are a full blown zionist or you are anti-semitic.


25 posted on 10/30/2010 4:40:01 PM PDT by Tribemike1
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To: swain_forkbeard
Question: “Isn’t the entirety of Christendom justified based on the scriptures??”

Your Answer: No, it’s not.
Christianity is based on is based on the collective experience of the Christian community, beginning with the life of Christ.
Scriptures are a record, written by men. The experience is paramount.

The "Correct" Answer:(2 Tim 3 : 16) "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness"

(2 Peter 1:20-21) "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation.
For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

26 posted on 10/30/2010 4:44:03 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: swain_forkbeard

The Greek Melkite Catholic Church is in full union with the Vatican, but they do not speak for the Vatican. This is an Archbishop’s opinion, and nothing more.

I think he has his history screwed up. JMHO


27 posted on 10/30/2010 4:44:06 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: SumProVita; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Yeah, right. Another *The Catholic church doesn’t really mean what it says*

We now have to go for an interpretation of what someone wants us to believe what the Catholic church MEANT and what it said isn’t what it meant.

Sure.....

Don’t they ever get tired of this? I mean really, they’ve worn that line threadbare. Nobody is believing it any more.

You know, if the Catholic church can’t get it’s message across without some Catholic reinterpretation of the incriminating evidence, they really need to find someone more literate to do their writing so that what they say is what they mean and what they mean is what they say.


28 posted on 10/30/2010 4:48:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: irishtenor
"All that I say, all that I do, is predestined."

Are you saying you have no free will?

29 posted on 10/30/2010 4:48:58 PM PDT by TrueConstitutionalPrinciples (speak out against the corruption of humanists and hedonists)
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To: TrueConstitutionalPrinciples; irishtenor

Are you saying that everything you do is totally free from the influences of your upbringing and past experiences, or from your innate desires?


30 posted on 10/30/2010 4:53:56 PM PDT by Gamecock ( Christianity is not the movement from vice to virtue, but from virtue to Grace.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

“No, it’s not. Christianity is based on is based on the collective experience of the Christian community, beginning with the life of Christ.”

Wrong. Beginning with the Old Testament.

++++++++++++++++++++

“Scriptures are a record, written by men. The experience is paramount.”

Wrong again. “Experience” and it’s various interpretations are subject to the shifting sands of time. The Written Record stands eternal.


31 posted on 10/30/2010 4:55:47 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Rashputin

We already went through this once before.

THIS IS NOT THE VATICAN speaking. There was a group of bishops with Middle Eastern connections who met at the Vatican.

In another article it was pointed out that at least two of these bishops said that it was time to stop trying to dialog with the Muslims until they stopped killing people.

This guy is from some Middle Eastern church. Greek Melkite, to be specific. Not a Roman Catholic, but a Greek Eastern Catholic with affiliation to Rome. As are most, or all, of the other bishops who were invited to Rome as part of the synod—which means a group of bishops from some country or region of the world.

This is not the Pope, not the Vatican, not the Catholic Church that is speaking. And this guy sounds like some kind of nutball.

The article says that he is President of the Commission for the Message. I have no idea what that is. Never heard of it, and I can’t find it with google, except for references to this and similar articles, at least one of which was written by an Arab.

Don’t be taken in. This is a load of horse pucky.


32 posted on 10/30/2010 4:56:22 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: SumProVita

This selectively edited article has been making its way around the internet.

Did anyone notice that the supposed Vatican “spokesman” is Monsignor Cyril Salim Bustros, Greek Melkite archbishop from ... Massachusetts?

Next.


33 posted on 10/30/2010 4:58:10 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: Cicero
Then it looks like Geer is just full of crap and attributing to the Vatican anything that is said there whether by the Swiss guards or the Pope himself. Thanks.

Regards

34 posted on 10/30/2010 4:59:49 PM PDT by Rashputin ( Palin/DeMint 2012 (if you can find someone as good to run the Senate, that is))
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To: Rashputin
The Vatican stating that Israel is "no longer a chosen people".

The Christian Church has always taught this from the very beginning. The bible states this quite clearly in numerous place. Paul said that those who did not follow Jesus were "broken off" from the tree of Israel. Peter said that Jewish and Gentile Christians were "a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people."

The Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and every Protestant denomination more than 200 years old still teaches this. The only exception to this rule is Darby-Scofield Dispensationalism.

Aside from rabbinical Jews and Dispensationalists, there is no dispute on this teaching. Those Jews and Gentiles joined to Christ are God's only chosen people.

35 posted on 10/30/2010 5:00:42 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: edwinland

Archbishop Bustros is bishop of the Roman Catholic Greek Melkite diocese covering the United States.


36 posted on 10/30/2010 5:04:04 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: edwinland

Whoever it is, the obvious response is “Get thee behind me, Satan!”


37 posted on 10/30/2010 5:05:28 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

The pace certainly seems to be picking up . . . just in the UFO arena alone.


38 posted on 10/30/2010 5:06:10 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: plinyelder

INDEED.


39 posted on 10/30/2010 5:06:58 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Tribemike1

Plently of Muslim semites in Isreal.


40 posted on 10/30/2010 5:08:27 PM PDT by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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