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To: irishtenor
"All that I say, all that I do, is predestined."

Are you saying you have no free will?

29 posted on 10/30/2010 4:48:58 PM PDT by TrueConstitutionalPrinciples (speak out against the corruption of humanists and hedonists)
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To: TrueConstitutionalPrinciples; irishtenor

Are you saying that everything you do is totally free from the influences of your upbringing and past experiences, or from your innate desires?


30 posted on 10/30/2010 4:53:56 PM PDT by Gamecock ( Christianity is not the movement from vice to virtue, but from virtue to Grace.)
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To: TrueConstitutionalPrinciples

The concept of Free Will is that man, on his own, can turn to God. This is a complete falshood. Man flees from God until he is converted (regenerated, born again, etc). No man will turn to God, in fact, no man CAN turn to God without the express directive given by God for him to change. No man chooses God on his OWN volition, man only chooses to sin or not sin at any given point. No man pleases God by himself.


46 posted on 10/30/2010 5:28:08 PM PDT by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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To: TrueConstitutionalPrinciples

Are you asking if anything I do surprises God? I think not. Can I alter, confuse, deny, or otherwise prevent God’s will from happening? If so, I am God over God, and THAT ain’t going to happen.


47 posted on 10/30/2010 5:30:43 PM PDT by irishtenor (All that I say, all that I do, is predestined.)
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