Saul David Alinsky?
Posted on 10/27/2010 7:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
American blacks vote Obama for the color of his skin. American Leftists vote O because they hope he will shaft this country more royally than anybody else has so far.
So what excuse do the Jews have? The black and the radical leftist vote O for reasons I can understand. Obama is black, even if his life experience has no relationship to the average American black person -- none at all. And Obama is a radical, so even the radicals have a reason. However, why does Obama keep has favorable standing with American Jews? It makes no sense.
With his favoritism for Muslims, by trying constantly to undermine the elected government of Israel and by constantly reaching out to a Hitler-wannabe in Iran, Obama has made it clear enough what side he's on. His friends Jodie Evans of Code Pink and Bill Ayers agitated for the Gaza flotilla that turned into a planned PR disaster for Israel. His administration supports the grotesque and shameful farce of Iran, the Sudan, and Libya sitting on the U.N. Human Rights Council. Those are genocidal, torturing, and utterly reactionary regimes. And that's just the start of Obama's bitter hatred of Israel and Western values. There's more coming -- you betcha.
American Jews are voting against their plain self-interest. They voted for someone who listened to J-Wright ranting against Jews and whites for twenty years. Wright is a race-hater, pure and simple, and he hates Whitey and the Jews. What's more, Michelle Obama is the daughter of a Chicago ward boss who grew up in that atmosphere, rife with Louis Farrakahn and the Black Muslims, J-Wright, and the ranting Father Pfleger. Michelle grew up with the Jesse Jackson family, and we know where Jesse stands. Put all that together, and you get classical Jew-hating. It's obvious to anybody who pays attention.
Obama's pal George Soros helped set up the phony front group J Street, which specializes in undermining Israel while claiming to defend it; it's classical Stalinist agitprop. Anybody could find that out. Granted that the media tried to cover it all up, but it's on the web, for goodness' sake. Use your fingers and it's right there.
Jews have the reputation of being intelligent, and academically, they often are. But Jewish smart people seem to be -- how shall I say this? -- incapable of thinking straight about politics. Once many Jews figure out what side in politics they are rooting for, they are stuck for life. No facts, no matter how persuasive, will change their minds. This is nuts. It is certainly not intelligent. In politics, American Jews seem to be idiots savant: Very bright in one part of life, but with big islands of ignorance, denial, and wishful thinking.
And yes, some of my best friends, and all that.
I can make up all kinds of imaginary reasons. Back in Europe it was the socialists and Soviets who ultimately did the most harm to the Nazis, so Eastern European Jews were drawn into that horrific maelstrom and chose the only side that wasn't systematically threatening and killing Jews. But that's historically one-sided. George Soros infamously grew up in Hungary selling the (stolen) furniture and art of the Jews who were marched to the concentration camp. Liberal Jews still admire the man.
Jews are attracted to the fantasy world of the lion lying down with the lamb. But reality tells us it hasn't happened yet, and the chances that peace will break out all over are not high. The Left constantly runs that sucker play, and American Jews fall for it. I've talked with Jewish friends, and I keep trying to figure it out. Can't they spot a cruel scam when they see it? Where is their intelligence?
The Jews in Europe had a very bad time with Catholics and Orthodox of various stripes, especially in Poland and Russia. And yet the European Enlightenment that started the liberation of Jews from the medieval ghetto was created by many Christians and some Jews. Historically, Christianity has both anti-Semitic elements and philo-Semitic ones, as the historian Paul Johnson points out in his history of the Jews. Listen to Mozart's Requiem Mass. Half the text comes from the Hebrew Bible.
A billion Muslims in the world are exposed to classic anti-Semitic hate propaganda. You can see it day by day on the MEMRI website, with straight translations from the Persian and Arab language media. Hate-Jew cartoons are all over those Islamic media. Hitler's Mein Kampf sells like hotcakes in Egypt. The Saudis sponsored a truly filthy TV series shown throughout the Arab world based on the Elders of Zion, the phony czarist anti-Jewish propaganda tale. (It features those folks with caricatured Shylock faces who are constantly plotting to take over the world, talking like Snidely Whiplash and rubbing their hand in glee while they are preparing to kill a Christian baby for Passover.) This is sleazy, nasty, hateful, and moronic stuff. Arab audiences in Egypt and Iran just love it. They are mental throwbacks to the Dark Ages.
And yet, American Jews vote for Obama. Now, Obama himself is careful to avoid any appearance of militant hatred of Jews. He just inveighs against "Wall Street Fat Cats" and "Neo-cons" and protects Black Muslims who are caught in voter intimidation in Philadelphia. A lot of those targets of abuse are Jews, and a lot of them sort of agree with Obama's rants against capitalism. But capitalism frees people, and the Jews, who have suffered more than their share of oppression, should recognize that instantly.
Half of American Jews are women. Women are badly used and abused both sexually and physically throughout the Islamic world. So are gay people. So are Christians who profess a religion that does not elevate Muhammad as the last prophet. Jews by the million have been forced to leave Muslim countries and are now settled in Israel and America. Every other day Ahmadinejad issues another nuclear threat against Tel Aviv. The Muslim Brotherhood, which inspired Hamas, has acted to destroy Jews and Israelis since its World War II alliance with Hitler. Jimmy Carter is a big fan of Hamas and brought that other medieval throwback, Ayatollah Khomeini, into power, thereby driving Jews and other Iranians out of that country.
And still the Jews vote 70-plus percent for their enemies.
Two plus two does not equal four.
This is not adult, rational behavior. It is not intelligent. It is not wise or benevolent. It is not charitable toward the weak and oppressed peoples of the earth. It is not good for future generations. And as 97 percent of the Israeli public has decided, Obama is very bad for Israel; after all, he's done nothing visible about Iranian nukes, which are the biggest genocidal danger to Israel ever. A second Holocaust has never been closer. Obama's backed off now for the election, but he'll be back at Netanyahu's throat as soon as the election is past. His White House "advisors" are all for shafting Israel but good. It's their substitute for sane foreign policy.
Something isn't right here. People usually don't vote for those who hate them and who constantly act in alliance with genocidal haters like Hamas and the Iranian fascisti.
Something isn't right.
Now watch the midterm elections, when the country will render its first verdict on Obama and his cronies in office, on the recession, the insanely high budgets, Obama's friendly alliances with ranting enemies of America and Israel.
I'll bet that Obama's crew gets more than 50 percent of the Jewish vote in the midterms.
That is pretty good post and I got you, I’m not sure how that fits in with the difference between the American Jewish vote, and the Orthodox conservative vote, or the Israeli-dual citizen absentee vote that is clearly decided by what is useful to the foreign country called Israel rather than Tikkun in America.
I used to subscribe to Tikkun magazine by the way, but not for long.
That's a subject that's way over my head.
I have. They claim they don't want the Christian Right to have too much power. They believe in liberalism.
It's not complicated just unpleasant.
Had the Nazis not done what they did to Jews folks would be more vocal about it. But we all just sorta soft pedal what is open war towards traditional culture here from many....minorities other than Jews btw
and frankly I am not sure how to handle that...are we going to just be polite forever?
What's the connection between the two sentences?
It's also funny: I live all my life as a Jew and have never ever met another Jew who would "despise the name of Christ." Does not look like you know what you are talking about.
"God sent them a King, and they rejected him."
What's the connection with the topic? Or are you venting your own dislike of the Jews?
At least invent some new reasons for doing so. It still does not occur to you that those living today are separated from the times of Christ by two millennia. DO you want me to list some of the Christians' and Church's deeds over the last two millennia?
What a pure Christian soul you have, grandma.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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For what the thread is worth, which isn't much.
I imagine I will be for about the next 15-20 yrs, then I’ll probably be dead. Life is full of both pleasant and unpleasant situations.
Wonder why Jews will never fully trust anything related to the "cross?" Because throughout its history, it has been a sign/symbol of persecution and death. Now we have a new batch NT followers that say "trust us" as their forefathers did. Why should we?
Exactly...Church biblical fads are a fickle thing. It is currently "in" to support Israel among the evangelical crowd but for how long? Oh and thanks for the kind comments.
So long as there is a modern nation of Israel to support, evangelicals will not abandon it. It's that Biblical literalist thing. Nothing fickle about it.
Prior to 1948, it was not uniformly true. Various strains of belief, some clinging to "replacement theology" justified antisemitism on that basis. Some still do today, but these are not the evangelicals of whom you speak and who you disparage.
Fulfillment of prophecy is taken seriously, as is the directive to support the nation that is the fulfillment of prophecy. Then, there's the "curse" for not doing so. Not something a Biblical literalist is going to chance, taking it literally and all.
It's really not that hard to decipher, honestly. You don't even have to subscribe to the belief in order to grasp it.
The truth is that most “jews” do not know who THEY are and most Christians do not know what “jews” are, and yet they ALL presume to speak as experts on the subject.
If the real truth was to be told, they would all deny it anyway, so what is the use of trying to explain what they already think they know?
In a sidebar of this situation take a look at this article and video
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2010/10/persian-anti-jimmy-carter-protest.html
My sister in law voted for odumbo and she’s from Long Island, has many Jewish friends. I asked her why. She said because they care more about social issues than economic issues. Particularly gay rights and abortion. I have no clue if this is correct, but most of her life her close friends have been Jewish.
Interesting! Good post.
Oh wow. I stand corrected. Sorry!
How do you explain Bibi and the emerging Tea Party in Israel?
I have spent some time over the past 35 years trying to understand this issue. Long before this current mess here in the U.S. Even read Hannah Arendt’s “Origins of Totalitarianism” hoping to understand how the late 1930’s happened for the European Jews. Still I failed to understand why.
So we are here where we are today again.
I have many times over the past 35 years. Still have not received an "explanation" that fits.
Saul David Alinsky?
Israel is a foreign country.
Much of the 2 per cent is concentrated in NY state, Connecticut, and New Jersey and they vote in numbers to swing the electoral votes into the Democrats camp. That’s why there is such “obsession” with this population.
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