Posted on 10/27/2010 7:23:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
American blacks vote Obama for the color of his skin. American Leftists vote O because they hope he will shaft this country more royally than anybody else has so far.
So what excuse do the Jews have? The black and the radical leftist vote O for reasons I can understand. Obama is black, even if his life experience has no relationship to the average American black person -- none at all. And Obama is a radical, so even the radicals have a reason. However, why does Obama keep has favorable standing with American Jews? It makes no sense.
With his favoritism for Muslims, by trying constantly to undermine the elected government of Israel and by constantly reaching out to a Hitler-wannabe in Iran, Obama has made it clear enough what side he's on. His friends Jodie Evans of Code Pink and Bill Ayers agitated for the Gaza flotilla that turned into a planned PR disaster for Israel. His administration supports the grotesque and shameful farce of Iran, the Sudan, and Libya sitting on the U.N. Human Rights Council. Those are genocidal, torturing, and utterly reactionary regimes. And that's just the start of Obama's bitter hatred of Israel and Western values. There's more coming -- you betcha.
American Jews are voting against their plain self-interest. They voted for someone who listened to J-Wright ranting against Jews and whites for twenty years. Wright is a race-hater, pure and simple, and he hates Whitey and the Jews. What's more, Michelle Obama is the daughter of a Chicago ward boss who grew up in that atmosphere, rife with Louis Farrakahn and the Black Muslims, J-Wright, and the ranting Father Pfleger. Michelle grew up with the Jesse Jackson family, and we know where Jesse stands. Put all that together, and you get classical Jew-hating. It's obvious to anybody who pays attention.
Obama's pal George Soros helped set up the phony front group J Street, which specializes in undermining Israel while claiming to defend it; it's classical Stalinist agitprop. Anybody could find that out. Granted that the media tried to cover it all up, but it's on the web, for goodness' sake. Use your fingers and it's right there.
Jews have the reputation of being intelligent, and academically, they often are. But Jewish smart people seem to be -- how shall I say this? -- incapable of thinking straight about politics. Once many Jews figure out what side in politics they are rooting for, they are stuck for life. No facts, no matter how persuasive, will change their minds. This is nuts. It is certainly not intelligent. In politics, American Jews seem to be idiots savant: Very bright in one part of life, but with big islands of ignorance, denial, and wishful thinking.
And yes, some of my best friends, and all that.
I can make up all kinds of imaginary reasons. Back in Europe it was the socialists and Soviets who ultimately did the most harm to the Nazis, so Eastern European Jews were drawn into that horrific maelstrom and chose the only side that wasn't systematically threatening and killing Jews. But that's historically one-sided. George Soros infamously grew up in Hungary selling the (stolen) furniture and art of the Jews who were marched to the concentration camp. Liberal Jews still admire the man.
Jews are attracted to the fantasy world of the lion lying down with the lamb. But reality tells us it hasn't happened yet, and the chances that peace will break out all over are not high. The Left constantly runs that sucker play, and American Jews fall for it. I've talked with Jewish friends, and I keep trying to figure it out. Can't they spot a cruel scam when they see it? Where is their intelligence?
The Jews in Europe had a very bad time with Catholics and Orthodox of various stripes, especially in Poland and Russia. And yet the European Enlightenment that started the liberation of Jews from the medieval ghetto was created by many Christians and some Jews. Historically, Christianity has both anti-Semitic elements and philo-Semitic ones, as the historian Paul Johnson points out in his history of the Jews. Listen to Mozart's Requiem Mass. Half the text comes from the Hebrew Bible.
A billion Muslims in the world are exposed to classic anti-Semitic hate propaganda. You can see it day by day on the MEMRI website, with straight translations from the Persian and Arab language media. Hate-Jew cartoons are all over those Islamic media. Hitler's Mein Kampf sells like hotcakes in Egypt. The Saudis sponsored a truly filthy TV series shown throughout the Arab world based on the Elders of Zion, the phony czarist anti-Jewish propaganda tale. (It features those folks with caricatured Shylock faces who are constantly plotting to take over the world, talking like Snidely Whiplash and rubbing their hand in glee while they are preparing to kill a Christian baby for Passover.) This is sleazy, nasty, hateful, and moronic stuff. Arab audiences in Egypt and Iran just love it. They are mental throwbacks to the Dark Ages.
And yet, American Jews vote for Obama. Now, Obama himself is careful to avoid any appearance of militant hatred of Jews. He just inveighs against "Wall Street Fat Cats" and "Neo-cons" and protects Black Muslims who are caught in voter intimidation in Philadelphia. A lot of those targets of abuse are Jews, and a lot of them sort of agree with Obama's rants against capitalism. But capitalism frees people, and the Jews, who have suffered more than their share of oppression, should recognize that instantly.
Half of American Jews are women. Women are badly used and abused both sexually and physically throughout the Islamic world. So are gay people. So are Christians who profess a religion that does not elevate Muhammad as the last prophet. Jews by the million have been forced to leave Muslim countries and are now settled in Israel and America. Every other day Ahmadinejad issues another nuclear threat against Tel Aviv. The Muslim Brotherhood, which inspired Hamas, has acted to destroy Jews and Israelis since its World War II alliance with Hitler. Jimmy Carter is a big fan of Hamas and brought that other medieval throwback, Ayatollah Khomeini, into power, thereby driving Jews and other Iranians out of that country.
And still the Jews vote 70-plus percent for their enemies.
Two plus two does not equal four.
This is not adult, rational behavior. It is not intelligent. It is not wise or benevolent. It is not charitable toward the weak and oppressed peoples of the earth. It is not good for future generations. And as 97 percent of the Israeli public has decided, Obama is very bad for Israel; after all, he's done nothing visible about Iranian nukes, which are the biggest genocidal danger to Israel ever. A second Holocaust has never been closer. Obama's backed off now for the election, but he'll be back at Netanyahu's throat as soon as the election is past. His White House "advisors" are all for shafting Israel but good. It's their substitute for sane foreign policy.
Something isn't right here. People usually don't vote for those who hate them and who constantly act in alliance with genocidal haters like Hamas and the Iranian fascisti.
Something isn't right.
Now watch the midterm elections, when the country will render its first verdict on Obama and his cronies in office, on the recession, the insanely high budgets, Obama's friendly alliances with ranting enemies of America and Israel.
I'll bet that Obama's crew gets more than 50 percent of the Jewish vote in the midterms.
Then why is traditional American culture viewed as the greater of two evils?
that is the question
They are stuck in the meme of the crusades and inquisition. Just this weekend I read an article here on FR that the Jews pushed to close a voting center that was run by messianic jews, even though they don’t have one in the area that can handle the handicapped.
They view Christianity as an enemy. It just isn’t percolating down to them that we are their strongest friends. They are like the blacks that vote so strongly democrat, even though when you talk to blacks you find their values conservative. They vote to destroy themselves because of some cultural leftover.
I guess it is the nature of people to keep voting for a party even after their party has left them behind.
I think there is now more distance between Old World change the world idealism from the grand and great grand parents who came over from eastern Europe and the kids today
some increase in disavowing the love of collectivism
but it’s still a haul
it’s funny but no matter how much they rile me, some of my favorite conservatives are Jewish...Levin...he and Limbaugh are my two favorites
but there is a lot of work to do
if more Jews lived in the country, went to range monthly that might help
I guess you’d have to ask a Jewish person that voted that way.
Guilt can make even nice people do strange things.
In addition to Zionist Conspirators points, I would add the following. Christianity historically, has in fact been a threat to the Jews. Early Christian Rome, The Crusades, The Inquisition, The European Pogroms, National Expulsions, from Britian, Poland, Spain and other European countries and finally Christian nations and "the church" who during the holocaust, could have done more to stop the Nazi's from genocide. There were also thousands that were turned their Jewish neighbors into the Nazis.
So overall, the Jewish people have had a long history of physical danger as well as the ever present taunts of "Christ killers", Blood libels, discrimination (it has only been in the last 50 years or less that Jews are allowed into private clubs and organizations)
So, do Jews just forget? No. Yes, the Evangelical Right supports Jews and that is great. But lets face it, it is because they believe A)G-d tells them to bless Israel and B) The belief the salvation of the Jews is part of their eschatology.
Another point to remember is that most of the Jews who came here were Askenazi Jews of western Europe. They were going through a reform movement in the 1800's that was much more assimilation friendly. In the Reform, they do not follow the commandments literally but as a guideline. The end result is liberalism and spiritually dead Judaism. The government should procure rights for minorities (Jews) and that other minorities should be granted rights and redistribution of wealth. Orthodox Jews are much more like their Conservative Christian counterparts.
All this aside, one omission the author makes, is that 54% of Catholics voted for Obama and 46% of Protestants. Even 25% of Evangelicals, 1 in 4, voted Obama. These groups elected Obama. Not the Jews.
G-d told us it would be this way anyway!
Ezekiel 36:19 I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered through the countries; I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. 20 And wherever they went among the nations they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them, 'These are the LORD's people, and yet they had to leave his land.' 21 I had concern for my holy name, which the house of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.
22 "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.
Socialists have been slaughtering Jews for years. They just want to be the last one’s the alligator eats.
“Christianity and Christ are bigger threats to their psyche than living as slaves under Marxism.”
IIRC, in the O.T., when wandering through the desert, they complained about all the stuff they missed, and intimated they’d prefer going back to being slaves in Egypt than being uncomfortable and headed for a better place. I’m not criticizing; just saying. Discernment wasn’t their strong suit.
Our dearest friends are Jewish. At least they had the good sense to NOT vote for Obama in ‘08. They aren’t the political junkies that we are, but said that “something just doesn’t feel right about Obama’>
We need to end that way of thinking ! The rest of us get punished as well.
Remember the socialist, I mean democrats are not about you enjoying life and being free to make your own decision, they want to treat you like you are step children and they are the step mother, get in your way of succeeding, punish you arbitrarily for no reason and in order for them to feel good about themselves, they put you down !
> Liberal Jews feel guilty about being successful due to their own hard work and have a subconscious desire to be punished for their success. The radical left is all too happy to accommodate them.
Here are the answers.
#1. The media in this country is liberal and so are all bodies of public and higher education. Jews are good at education and they have learned since age 2 to follow what they learn.
#2. Jews have big mouths and they are usually quite verbal and quick. They tend to be honest, sarcastic, and even harsh with their loved ones and friends. While the goyim wring their hands when their kids go off the reservation, Jews SLAM and verbally devastate theirs.
That’s all you need to know. I am a conservative Jew, the only one in my entire extended family. In this position, you are alternatively avoided or patronized at family gatherings. Thanksgiving after the 2000 election (when we still didn’t for sure have a President elected), we had to make a No Politics rule at the table. Two years in a row at the Chanukah bash, I was given the same Wit of Bob Dole book. That was as far as they could think about what conservatives would want.
Huge generalizations, of course, and I must mention that our Orthodox communities are full of bright, informed people who understand that Obama is Amalek, our traditional and forever enemy.
But the average liberal Jew is liberal before Jewish, knows virtually nothing about his own religion, doesn’t keep most of the commandments, and is scared to DEATH of being mocked by his wife, friends, family, if he were to say he would vote Republican. They will give him sh**, and he can’t hack it. (However, in this current election in CA, I have heard from some liberal Jews that they do not want Brown or Boxer. They have not been chewed out that much for it.)
I do not know any Jews that despise Christ. Most do not. I can think of some Orthodox rabbis that are fearful, not of Jesus, but of what Jesus’s followers (as they see it) did to their forebears.
This is a great historical and probably future explanation in macro. But it doesn’t explain each individual, mostly apolitical, Jewish person today and how he thinks. See my post above for that.
Yosef Q. Public isn’t thinking about big government protecting him any more. He’s a liberal weenie afraid of his family and friends mocking him.
Bingo, Wardaddy. I am sad about it as the holidays approach. But I am so proud of myself for "getting it." Plus, ask any of the Orthodox Jewish Freepers: conservatism IS more Jewish, truly. That's the thing -- it fits the Torah far better than what the bleeding hearts do. They are patronizing, they keep the poor on a chain. The old, it's better to teach a man to fish, thing. But liberal Jews never truly learned their own religion.
No it is because of their powerful influence in image making, opinion forming, and news fields, and in leadership and forming of radical left wing groups, and their concentration in influential geographical areas like New York city. Homosexuals share much of that same over sized influence, far beyond their numbers.
That 2% figure is meaningless, Muslims vote like Jews, but their influence will never be equal.
You are NOT reading the Jewish Press. There are far more articles against Obama there, and about the dangers to this country as well as Israel. Are you sure your publication is Orthodox? Right now, the Orthodox communities totally get it. They will be voting mostly Republican right now.
That doesn’t explain a 100%, 100 year old perfect record of radical leftism.
So you contend that the question is not about how the majority of Jews vote, it is rather about why Jewish intellectuals are not persuaded by Christian conservatism?
No, this is what I contend, it is about influence, 2% of Muslims will never have the same impact, you asked for an explanation, don’t you agree with it?
It is because of their powerful influence in image making, opinion forming, and news fields, and in leadership, membeship and forming of radical left wing groups, and their concentration in influential geographical areas like New York city. Homosexuals share much of that same over sized influence, far beyond their numbers.
That 2% figure is meaningless, Muslims vote like Jews, but their influence will never be equal.
The Jewish Press may like National Review, but their endorsements don't reflect that. They've just endorsed big libs Dov Hikind and Sheldon Silver again, just like they do every election.
Try to find a local Republican they have endorsed ever.
The article on voting for "gay rights" to protect minorities appeared in JP, but I didn't say they endorsed or authored it.
You reminded me of reason number three; however, this is one I'm not able to explain very articulately (although others on this thread have).
This is the concept of Tikkun, or "healing the world," which, as I understand it, is a mitzvah, or spiritual duty, for Jews. It is this (I hope I'm getting this right) that caused socialism and communism to be invented among Ashkenazi Jews hundreds of years ago. It's the idea that all mankind is one huge family that must be re-united under the gaze of their Maker, that this outcome is the highest aspiration of human life on earth, and must be pursued at all costs and against all odds.
This is an explanation I've heard for the long-standing association between collectivist political philosophies and Jewishness.
The fact that hundreds of millions of people have been killed in the name of these theories does not deter, unfortunately. It's a commandment.
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