Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 10/21/2010 12:10:42 PM PDT by presidio9
At a candidate forum here last week, Representative Baron P. Hill, a threatened Democratic incumbent in a largely conservative southern Indiana district, was endeavoring to explain his unpopular vote for the House cap-and-trade energy bill.
It will create jobs in Indiana, reduce foreign oil imports and address global warming, Mr. Hill said at a debate with Todd Young, a novice Republican candidate who is supported by an array of Indiana Tea Party groups and is a climate change skeptic.
“Climate change is real, and man is causing it,” Mr. Hill said, echoing most climate scientists. “That is indisputable. And we have to do something about it.”
A rain of boos showered Mr. Hill, including a hearty growl from Norman Dennison, a 50-year-old electrician and founder of the Corydon Tea Party.
“It’s a flat-out lie,” Mr. Dennison said in an interview after the debate, adding that he had based his view on the preaching of Rush Limbaugh and the teaching of Scripture. “I read my Bible,” Mr. Dennison said. “He made this earth for us to utilize.”
Skepticism and outright denial of global warming are among the articles of faith of the Tea Party movement, here in Indiana and across the country. For some, it is a matter of religious conviction; for others, it is driven by distrust of those they call the elites. And for others still, efforts to address climate change are seen as a conspiracy to impose world government and a sweeping redistribution of wealth. But all are wary of the Obama administration’s plans to regulate carbon dioxide, a ubiquitous gas, which will require the expansion of government authority into nearly every corner of the economy.
“This so-called climate science is just ridiculous,” said Kelly Khuri, founder of the Clark County Tea Party Patriots. “I think it’s all
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Noticeably missing in this hit piece are those of us with scientific knowledge who find the so-called science of AGW to be completly bogus and agenda-driven.
Man’s CO2 production accounts for 0.117% of the greenhouse effect.
So, how is it that it is “indisputable” that man is causing climate change?
(rhetorical question of course, but you have to address them every time they spout their baseless assertions)
The N.Y. Times thinks we all need to bow down and worship Gore...Green is the new Red.
Amen.
For the vast majority of those of us “in” the Tea Party, the TRUTH and FACTS and PRINCIPLES and VALUES are all “articles of faith.”
I actually don’t like the phrase “Articles of faith” because this is not about faith or beliefs. It’s not an issue of whether or not I BELIEVE in AGW, rather this is about SCIENCE, which has firm roots in KNOWLEDGE (scientia) and DEMONSTRABLE FACTS and HYPOTHESES and good methodologies, etc.
harrumph.
I guess since I don’t “believe” in catastrophic AGW, this author believes me to be a Tea Party idiot.
The Spanish Inquisition was more tolerant of heretics than these Global Warming fruitcakes. When a “scientist” delivers his options with the shrill, hysterical, crazed voice of a true believer I take what he says with a ton of salt. The truth doesn’t make silencing decent its #1 priority. Lies do.
We don’t want our economy and way of life sacrificed on the altar of crackpot science. “You will not sacrifice the nation on a cross of green...”
Yeah, it's called WEATHER!
and man is causing it,” Mr. Hill said
As much as we're causing the sun to rise in the east.
, echoing most climate scientists. “That is indisputable.
It's completely indisputable.....you just refuse to debate.
“It will create jobs in Indiana,”
Is Senator Lugar spreading his money around earned from carbon credits and his “farm” in Indiana?
“reduce foreign oil imports”
Has nothing to do with oil, and will increase electricity prices deterring people from converting to electric cars,
“and address global warming”
That’s the latest Dem weasel word, “address,” which promises nothing.
Sounds like they got the elite's game figured out. The title of this article should be "voters know truth about global warming scam".
More spin from the NYT.
The issue with climate change is the sizing and attribution of whatever warming is taking place. While some warming in some places is occurring, the scientific issues are more complex and far less settled than Al Gore et al are willing to acknowledge. The farmers in Indiana are more likely to understand this than all the Greeniks at the UN and at the government R&D funding teat.
Obviously, if someone disputes it, it’s not “indisputable”, and Mr Hill either just lied or is irrational.
It will create jobs in Indiana, reduce foreign oil imports while increasing US oil imports and address global warming (who can tell one way or the other), Mr. Hill said at a debate with Todd Young, a novice Republican candidate who is supported by an array of Indiana Tea Party groups and is a climate change skeptic.
No. The issue with climate change is that the "science" behind it has completely collapsed, in that the original data no longer exists and therefore the findings cannot be reproduced.
The other issue is that in spite of the NYT (as well as the Obama administration) stating that "most climate scientists" agree that “Climate change is real, and man is causing it,” in fact, they have yet to provide the names of any scientists who still have credibility that will go on record as agreeing with that statement.
When they have us all riding bicycles & horses, they think they will have ‘solved’ the ‘problem as they see the problem’.
Then 4 major volcanoes will blow up again- & they will perhaps understand that the problem isn’t controllable.
What do these left wing POS's have against CO2? The plants love it. If these dirt bags really want to reduce CO2 emissions, they can simply stop breathing.
The “problem as they see it” is that too many people are living in ways that they don’t approve of.
That’s the whole “problem as they see it” in a nutshell.
Anyone who would make such an asinine statement 18 months ago is simply ignorant.
Anyone who would make that statement today is both ignorant and arrogant.
Most climate scientists?
How many of those unnamed scientists are physicists, climate scientist, competent statisticians, won Nobel prizes and are respected world-wide for decades?
Indisputable?
That he is a dumbass is the only thing indisputable in this thread.
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