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Troops chafe at restrictive rules of engagement, talks with Taliban
The Washington Examiner ^ | 10/19/2010 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 10/19/2010 6:23:25 AM PDT by panthermom

KANDAHAR, AFGHANISTAN -- To the U.S. Army soldiers and Marines serving here, some things seem so obviously true that they are beyond debate. Among those perceived truths: Tthe restrictive rules of engagement that they have to fight under have made serving in combat far more dangerous for them, while allowing the Taliban to return to a position of strength.

"If they use rockets to hit the [forward operating base] we can't shoot back because they were within 500 meters of the village. If they shoot at us and drop their weapon in the process we can't shoot back," said Spc. Charles Brooks, 26, a U.S. Army medic with 1st Battalion, 4th Infantry Regiment, in Zabul province.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Troops-chafe-at-restrictive-rules-of-engagement_-talks-with-Taliban-1226055-105202284.html#ixzz12oDA1OmU

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; anything2hurtamerica; military; troops
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Here is a feel good story to start your day! NOT!!!!!
1 posted on 10/19/2010 6:23:29 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom

You ever see a fight in Georgia like this b.s.?


2 posted on 10/19/2010 6:27:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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"What does it mean if we give in to the Taliban? They are the enemy," Brooks said. "This place is going to be a safe haven for terrorists again. The government doesn't care about the sacrifices already made. As far as the mission goes, I want to see these kids go to school and have a future but not at the expense of my friends -- not anymore."

Another Obama failure. (In rereading, I realized, that's redundant.) No wonder the admin doesn't care if the states ignores the votes of our fighting men and women.

3 posted on 10/19/2010 6:33:47 AM PDT by FourPeas (Pester not the geek, for the electrons are his friends.)
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To: panthermom
More of out guys are going to die over these senseless ROE, I guarantee it. All politicians who aid and abet these rules, and who support talks with the taliban, deserve to be run out of office.

The taliban wants nothing out of these talks except time. Time to regroup, resupply, and refit. How can our dumb leaders not see this???

4 posted on 10/19/2010 6:35:31 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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"If they use rockets to hit the [forward operating base] we can't shoot back because they were within 500 meters of the village."

Establish where the 500 meter perimeter is and set up firing positions there to shoot back from.

"If they shoot at us and drop their weapon in the process we can't shoot back,"

Shoot him anyway and say that he dropped the weapon when your bullet hit him, or place the dropped weapon on the corpse afterwards.

5 posted on 10/19/2010 6:36:05 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Celtic Cross

More of out = More of our


6 posted on 10/19/2010 6:36:14 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: panthermom

Insane!

Either fight to WIN, or bring’em home!


7 posted on 10/19/2010 6:36:25 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: panthermom

Barak Hussaine Obama should be tried for treason.

And to think that he is preventing our soldiers from voting is enough to make my eyes bleed.


8 posted on 10/19/2010 6:37:44 AM PDT by demkicker (Helping Democrats Become Extinct)
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To: Celtic Cross

Never heard of Zabul before until yesterday when my son mentioned it. Then I read this article.


9 posted on 10/19/2010 6:37:55 AM PDT by panthermom
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"I don't think the military leaders, president or anybody really cares about what we're going through," said Spc. Matthew "Silver" Fuhrken, 25, from Watertown, N.Y. "I'm sick of people trying to cover up what's really going on over here. They won't let us do our job. I don't care if they try to kick me out for what I'm saying -- war is war and this is no war. I don't know what this is."

This comment sent a chill up my spine....

10 posted on 10/19/2010 6:45:52 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom

Time to bring our folks out of there. More American blood and treasure WILL NOT resolve thousands of years of tribal, ethnic, religious and secular warfare. While I feel badly for the minority of them who are NOT into the business of killing, IT’S ALL MOST OF THEM SEEM TO KNOW.

And for those of you who fear that we’ll eventually have to fight them HERE, take comfort in the fact that our open borders and PC have guaranteed that we probably will anyway.

What to do? Here’s MY solution — but I can also guarantee that this will never happen so we’ll pour MORE blood and treasure into those sad, bleak places. Policeman of the world and all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkyEtw8lBtI


11 posted on 10/19/2010 6:48:46 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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Establish where the 500 meter perimeter is and set up firing positions there to shoot back from.

From what I hear, more often than not, the village is where the bad guys are hiding.

12 posted on 10/19/2010 6:49:07 AM PDT by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: panthermom

God protect our troops, because their “CIC” won’t lift a finger to help them. Disgusting.


13 posted on 10/19/2010 6:51:08 AM PDT by greatplains
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To: Celtic Cross

> deserve to be run out of office.

I was thinking more of giving them a single-shot, breech-loading, bolt-action .22, a day’s worth of MREs and water, and leaving them in the midst of the Afghan.

That’s about the equivalent of the ROEs our fighting men have to suffer, in spite of all the hi-tech, modern military equipment they have.


14 posted on 10/19/2010 6:53:37 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Dick Bachert

There is only 1 way for them to fight us here, and that would be by suicide bombers, etc. And as far as I’m concerned they can go on and do that anyway.

80+ million registered firearms, you can at least double that. They do not have the b@lls to go face to face with us.


15 posted on 10/19/2010 7:00:35 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom
I am preaching to the choir.
Vote, early vote, or November 2nd Vote.
This time: Win one for the Gipper and our Troops.
16 posted on 10/19/2010 7:00:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform)
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To: KoRn

Not just to win, but to utterly crush and grind the enemy to dust.


17 posted on 10/19/2010 7:23:45 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: no-to-illegals

rEPublicans need to run with these ROE stories now hard and fast, again and again.


18 posted on 10/19/2010 7:23:47 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC
rEPublicans are you listening?

The tea is up to the boiling point!

19 posted on 10/19/2010 7:27:02 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform)
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To: no-to-illegals

For those of you that can, look at how WWII was conducted. The Allies fought to win. Period.


20 posted on 10/19/2010 7:32:19 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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