Posted on 10/15/2010 5:06:53 AM PDT by truthandlife
Good news for opponents of the new healthcare law: The Supreme Court is likely to overturn key elements of it, says Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., the third-ranking House Republican, The Hill reports. "It's going to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court's going to decide whether or not the Constitution of the United States permits the government to order the American people to purchase goods or services, whether they want them or need them or not," says Pence, who opposes Obamacare, just like nearly all Republicans.
Mike Pence, healthcare, Obamacare, Supreme CourtAnd what will the court decide?
"I rather like our chances when this thing gets to the U.S. Supreme Court," Pence said Friday on WLS radio in Indiana. "I think there could be a narrow majority on the court that recognizes that you cannot compel the American people to purchase health insurance just as a function of being an American citizen."
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If this is true, how can the government mandate that automobile insurance be purchased?
Just askin ...
They can only do that for people who decide to use government services and products (the roads).
The difference is that with the healthcare mandate, there are no "only if" provisions. Everyone must buy, regardless of need or want.
The government can’t mandate that you buy auto insuracne. They can mandate that you buy it if you want to drive a car on public roads.
Automobile insurance only has to be purchased if you drive.
I would have thought that exempting hard-up corporations like McDonald’s from covering their workers would have cleared a lot of this up.
Of course, show up at a garage without insurance or money to cover the car repair, and you’ll be shown the door. Show up at an ER in the same straits...they’ll treat you, and then spread the cost out to everybody esle.
Like they turned over Campaign Finance Reform.
>>you cannot compel the American people to purchase health insurance just as a function of being an American citizen.”
But they are NOT doing that (for ALL Americans).
Muslims are exempt from having to purchase it!
(5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information: (A) In the case of an individual seeking ex emption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption,
‘‘(2) RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS.—
‘‘(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term shall not include any individual for any month if such individual has in effect an exemption under section 1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.
(c) Section 5000A(d)(2)(A) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as added by section 1501(b) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:
‘‘(A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term shall not include any individual for any month if such individual has in effect an exemption under section 1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which certifies that such individual is—
‘‘(i) a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof which is described in section 1402(g)(1), and
‘‘(ii) an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.’’.
STATES mandate auto insurance!
You must buy insurance to cover the cost of causing damage to others on public highways. You are not required to insure your own vehicle against damage caused by you.
You can choose one of many insurance carriers.
You can choose your deductible and limits.
A car finance company will require you to cover the cost of the loan with insurance, or you can pay cash & buy your own vehicle.
You can also ride a bike or use public transportation.
The choice is yours!
What a shame that it boils down to partisan politics and not what it truly is...a violation of Constitutional rights.
well first off it’s not the federal government that mandates auto insurance, and each state has it’s own guidelines. If you own your car out right, you can usually just buy insurance that covers your damages against someone else. If you have financed your vehicle, the finance company wants you to insure your own vehicle to protect them against loss. The same with a house you may own. If you own it outright, you don’t need insurance....if however you have a mortgage, the loan company wants insurance against their potential loss.
I'm sorry--I can't tell. Is this a complaint?
What would it take for large blocks of us to become “a member of a health care sharing ministry” and thereby be qualified for exemption?
You are not forced to drive a car. You are forced to buy medical insurance just because you are alive.
Legally, wouldn’t anyone who can show their country of origin is INDIA be afforded an exemption? The law does not say “native American Indian”, just “Indian”
(5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information: (A) In the case of an individual seeking ex emption based on the individual’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption,
What Federal Statute requires me to have auto insurance?
Use this as an example to stop lying to the voters. We need Truth in Taxation.
The reason that noone read the bill, besides its length,
was their understanding of the “granting of discretion”.
That’s all they need to know anymore - who gets the power of discretion.
“Discretion”, of course, just means that the decision making power is vested in one person or committee, and that person or committee can decide based on various biases whether to grant waivers or punishments or withhold services.
No... this wouldn’t lead to corruption! No way! Especially not with benign elitist leftists!
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