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Paladino calls gays 'dysfunctional'
Associated Press ^ | REUVEN FENTON and JEREMY OLSHAN

Posted on 10/10/2010 4:35:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Carl Paladino says it’s not okay to be gay.

"There is nothing to be proud of in being a dysfunctional homosexual," the Republican gubernatorial candidate told a small Hasidic group at K’hal Adas Kasho synagogue in Williamsburg today.

"That's not how god created us, and that's not the example that we should be showing our children."

Paladino, who has made his opposition to the gay marriage and "the homosexual agenda" clear, went much further yesterday, to say children "would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family" than being gay."

"And I don't want them to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option," he said. "It isn't."

The speech came just days after the suicide of a gay Rutgers student and an anti-gay gang attack in the Bronx.

His Democratic opponent, Andrew Cuomo, blasted the remarks as "stunning homophobia and a glaring disregard for basic equality."

A campaign spokesman said "These comments along with other views he has espoused make it clear that he is way out of the mainstream a

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: cartervt2k

Here it is in simple language.

The very reason we are in the handbasket heading south is not because of the leftist Democrats.

It is for this reason:

The Repbulican party which was supposed to be conservative, wasn’t. They compromised on taxes, gov function, AND SOCIAL ISSUES. They are the ones who should have been STANDING UP AGAINST the leftist crap, but instead became part of the enemy through weakness, greed, lack of strong conservative ideology, “go along to get along”, “reach across the aisle” crap.

The ONLY - I repeat - ONLY - way to win this war is for Republicans to be strong fiscal AND social conservatives and have courage to speak and act on their principles.

Compromise and social liberalism is the quickest way to go to hell in a handbasket.


281 posted on 10/11/2010 10:45:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: manc

I agree that there is no persuasive evidence that anyone is born homosexual. However, that does not mean that all homosexuals have chosen their same-sex attraction.

The best evidence I have seen, by the NARTH psychologists, who continued to do research into what causes the same-sex disorder after APA removed it from the manual of disorders, suggests that a lot of same-sex attraction originates after birth in the environment in which the person grows up. In many ways it grows out of the increasing sexual dysfuction all throughout society since the sexual revolution, which has disordered a lot of parents. A good bit of it seems to result from being abused as a child—sexually, yes, but also in other ways, in big but also in smaller ways.

Being told that it’s normal only makes things worse because it permits the person with the unchosen attraction to tell himself it’s okay to act upon the attraction. He then usually ends up abusing others and messing them up too.

The acting out is wrong and freely chosen. The same sex attraction is a disorder, not congenital, but also not simply freely chosen.

There are a lot of disordered heterosexuals too. Their disorders may be the result of freely chosen behavior or they may not; usually a mixture. There are a lot of people with disordered attitudes toward food, money, power. The role of influences by abusive and evil people upon them in comparison to their own culpabilty and choices is complex.

It really does help to make distinctions rather than broad brushing things.


282 posted on 10/11/2010 10:55:56 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: little jeremiah

WHERE do you get all this vitriol?? It’s ridiculous. Along with whatever you are accusing me of. I have never supported a “gay agenda.”

The things you say in your post about what I believe and want are created out of YOUR fertile mind.

It’s crazy.


283 posted on 10/11/2010 11:46:34 AM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: Yaelle

I only repeated the lies you tell - that little children are born homosexual, and therefore cannot change.

Anyone can read your comments and see for themselves.

It is a lie invented by the militant radical homosexual agenda pushers and doesn’t belong on FR. So I will call you on it whenever I see it.


284 posted on 10/11/2010 12:18:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

No, you did not only repeat what I have said. And I am not telling lies, nor am I reading from the militant radical homosexual teleprompter. You are QUITE aggressive on this subject, and so anti-gay I am surprised you can even go to the hairdresser.

I have only spoken about how gays are born that way, and I am getting my information from watching precious children grow up and happen to be gay. If you can’t deal with that fact, fine.


285 posted on 10/11/2010 12:38:40 PM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: Lauren BaRecall

No way, I am not condemning effeminate men to homosexuality. You guys put so many words in my mouth. Of course there are masculine women who are not gay and effeminate men who aren’t either. Why would I find fault with that? Of course there is diversity in heterosexuality.

Sometimes, though, people are gay.

Why do you think we are any different than frogs whose sexual behaviors and organs are greatly affected by the water they live in? We are also affected by the pollution and chemicals, especially plastics, in our environment. Our reproductive organs and sexual behaviors are just as vulnerable.


286 posted on 10/11/2010 12:45:09 PM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: manc
homosexuals are not born as homosexuals, they do it and choose it to get off sexually.

A little 11-year-old boy who finds himself attracted to other boys and not to other girls WANTS that??? Unh-unh.

There is nothing natural or normal about a man poking another man up the ass or a woman wearing a strap on pretending to have a penis while having sex with another woman.

This is a non sequitur. What is natural about people putting their faces in other people's privates? Yet it's done every day. Is a vibrator natural? Come on.

There is no homosexual gene either so lets cut the crap and pro homosexual B/S from the homosexuals.

You are correct. There is no homosexual gene. The embryo is either male or female, or a mixture of the two due to chromosomal abnormalities. Gays are usually clear male or clear female, chromosomally and genetically. But there is a stage when teh fetus is developing where the genitalia are formed and the sexuality in the brain is wired. THAT is where something goes wrong for the fetus, and his orientation is off.

287 posted on 10/11/2010 12:50:58 PM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: Yaelle

Where ever you got the lies from, they are lies. It just so happens that those lies are also spread as truth by the radical and militant homosexual agenda.

The truth is - No one is born homosexual.

I do not hate homosexuals, I feel sorry for them. I do hate the lies of the homosexual agenda.

People can change and there has been no scientific proof whatsoever that anyone is “born gay” although scientists have searched and searched for it - all to no avail. Plus the large numbers of former homosexuals attest to this truth.

And I do my own hair.


288 posted on 10/11/2010 12:54:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Antoninus
No one is born gay. There is no "gay" gene. Stop spreading lies.

See my previous. There is no gay gene. And yet people are born gay.

The real cruelty is those who propagate the myth that if you are "born gay", you have no choice but to act the part. If you are a man who has effeminate mannerisms, you must embrace the "gay" lifestyle. To sodomize and be sodomized. That is your fate. Accept it.

I agree with all of you who argue this. You are born with your orientation. You will become aroused naturally by either males or females. But you can decide to alter your natural orientation. People have done this. It must be pretty difficult. Imagine yourself, oriented to become aroused with a woman, having to re-learn your sexuality so you can lie with John and have a good time. But people can do it. I will not deny that.

289 posted on 10/11/2010 12:55:26 PM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: little jeremiah
And I do my own hair.

LOL!

Seriously, homosexuality, the orientation to which you become naturally sexually aroused, YOUR gender or the OPPOSITE gender, does come hard wired from the womb.

As I said in my previous, someone can of course decide to CHANGE and relearn their sexual behavior. Or not act on it at all, and live celibate.

I do not like or approve of most of the homosexual agenda. Except for wanting people to be treated fairly regardless of their orientation, which is already the case except for these horrible bullying crimes.

You will never accept that innocent people are born gay through no fault of their own. You will call this a lie no matter what I say.

290 posted on 10/11/2010 1:00:55 PM PDT by Yaelle ( I donated double. We need FR running smoothly this fall. Join me.)
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To: Yaelle; little jeremiah
...and so anti-gay....

ZAP! GOTCHA!

*I'VE* been reading your posts, and little jeremiah's statements about them are accurate.

Little jeremiah "anti gay" - MY FOOT!

291 posted on 10/11/2010 1:17:44 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Paladino is a rock star!)
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To: Yaelle
I've read your posts, and they speak for themselves.

Why do you think we are any different than frogs whose sexual behaviors and organs are greatly affected by the water they live in?

Natural Law.

292 posted on 10/11/2010 1:21:41 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Paladino is a rock star!)
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To: Yaelle
Weird science. LOL!
293 posted on 10/11/2010 1:25:43 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Paladino is a rock star!)
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To: Buggman; Zionist Conspirator; XeniaSt

The Acts 15 restrictions were general categories for Gentiles broadly apply.

Sexual immorality = all forms

Meat to Idols = any participation in idol worship

blood = all health and cruelty issues relating to blood

strangled = all non-supervised killings for food purposes

And, of course, no circumcision requirement.

This is my take on the Jerusalem Council, but I think it’s logical.


294 posted on 10/11/2010 1:51:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Christianity says this law doesn’t apply to Gentiles.

He also told Jews to sacrifice animals. Do you practice that?


295 posted on 10/11/2010 1:53:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Yaelle

utter crap.

no boys are attracted sexually to another boy at a young age like 9.
I have boys and girls and have raised my boys to be men.

Letting a boy wear a dress, wear make up, play with dolls is confusing the ;poor kid and if you advocate that they should do this then you need to sort your life out.

Nothing is natural about homosexuals OR HOW THEY GET OFF.

If nature intended two of the same sex to be together then they would be able to reproduce, they cannot therefore it is unnatrual and yes they do it to get off

so tell me since you’re on here spouting the homosexual crap.

do you think homosexuals should get kids?
should homosexuality be taught in schools?
should homosexuality be taught to kids as if it is normal?
should homosexuals have marriage like a normal couple?

simple yes or no would suffice instead of you advocating the homosexual crap like you have been on here.

As for there is no homosexual gene, yes I am correct and it is at least you can admit that.

You get a boy , dress him up, put make up on him, treat him like a girl, (which many left wing kooks do now) etc etc then of course the poor kid will be confused.

As for the older man who turns into a homo then it is all about getting off in a unnatural way and IMHO a sick disgusting vile way.

I knew a guy, who had two kids, married, went to prison for a few years and came out a homo.
I asked him why and he said he liked getting off like that in prison and now is used to it.
He told me that it is not about being born like that or any other crap, it is all about him getting off.


296 posted on 10/11/2010 1:59:29 PM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: Yaelle

you say a man sticking up his dick in another mans ass is normal, you seriously are one sicko


297 posted on 10/11/2010 2:00:19 PM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: Yaelle

there is no homo gene like you said but then you say people are born a homo, get real.


298 posted on 10/11/2010 2:02:19 PM PDT by manc (He goes to church and now this biased media says look he's a Christian.Biased media =joke)
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To: xzins
Christianity says this law doesn’t apply to Gentiles.

To be more specific, chr*stianity says that law has is not obsolete and has been "superseded." So how do you argue with liberals who say the same thing about the ban on homosexuality?

He also told Jews to sacrifice animals. Do you practice that?

I'm not Jewish. Non-Jews are permitted, but not required to offer qorbanot, even on private altars, but the rules are very stringent. Also, the skin is to be given to a kohen (Jewish priest) and there are opinions that this cannot be done since Jews are teme'ey-metim without the red heifer.

For Jews it is different. Jews are indeed required to offer qorbanot, but this cannot be done without an altar on the Temple Mount. Plus the absence of the red heifer makes it impossible for Jews to ascend there according to some opinions.

But my point, which you are doing your best to ignore, is very, very simple. G-d's laws are eternal. They do not change. They do not get "updated" or "modernized." The fact that they make no sense to our feeble human minds does not lessen our obligation to observe them in the least.

Chr*stianity's "supersession" of Jewish ritual mitzvot is basically the same as liberalism's rejection of non-humanistic morality.

299 posted on 10/11/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'emin beHaShem; vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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To: Yaelle

How about some scientific proof for your “kids are born gay” theories?

Let me know when you post scientific studies.


300 posted on 10/11/2010 2:20:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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