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'LOST': What is with this series? (Save time, ask Freepers)
October 9, 2010 | This Just In

Posted on 10/09/2010 10:22:42 PM PDT by This Just In

As many of you know, my family and I do not watch television. Well, perhaps I should clarify. We do not watch televised programming. Needless to say, we don't keep up on popular programming.

Last week, during a family outing, we found a used DVD set of the first 'LOST' series. For those of you who are not familiar with my posts, as a general rule, I don't trust what is usually produced in Hollywood. I find a majority of the films and programs to be veiled Socialist/Communist, nihilistic propaganda.

The 'LOST' series did not disappoint. I found the liberal stereotypes to by typical, and J.J. and Co. didn't bother to veil their ideology in the series.

You have your typical "redneck"(Sawyer), "Conservative"(Shannon), "religious wacko"(John Locke), and the rest of the cast and motley crue of social rejects and garden variety criminals. To be "fair", we're also given your kinder-gentler do-gooders as well.

If I sound cynical it is only because I am. I found this series to be devoid of any transcending quality, and quite frankly, I feel as thoe J.J. is actually pulling the wool over the viewers eyes.

Must to my chagrin, some in our family finds the series to be very entertaining. So much so that after we viewed the first season, my loved ones bought the second. I find this program to be a complete waste of time, but I sit and view the episodes so that our family can share time together as well as discuss the series.

I am here to ask Freepers to help me out; bottom-line me here. I can no longer endure this series without finding out where the writers are taking the viewers.

Here is what I believe the jest of the story is. In just a few words, it seems to me that the island is either Dante's Purgatory, some place in the "after-life". I believe that everyone on the island is dead, but that the "Hatch" and underground dwellings like it are perhaps just another level of hell, or something like that.

I don't have the time, nor to I wish to waste anymore in expressing my opinion on what I believe is the overall message in the 'LOST' series.

So, would someone please provide me with a summary of what's going on, and what the conclusion to this story is?

What happens to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, Walt, Vincent, Charlie, Claire, Aaron, Rousseau, John Locke, Hurly? What happened to Jack's father? What is the source of the smoke and explosions in the jungle? What happened to Rose and Bernard?

I'm LOST.


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To: BelegStrongbow

I appreciate the spoilers. The reason I didn’t wish to read through exhaustive threads was because I did not wish to waste too much time on the topic.

Thanks for the input.


121 posted on 10/11/2010 8:39:37 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: fr_freak

“If you don’t like the show, it’s because you didn’t “get it”, not because the show was a flawed mess. These fanboy types get pretty aggressive when the object of their adoration is criticized.”

Hit the nail square on the head, fr_freak. It’s interesting, if not amusing, to see some Freepers and how unglued they become over a television series.


122 posted on 10/11/2010 8:45:18 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: BelegStrongbow

Thanks for the suggestion and opinion. Deeply appreciate your point of view.


123 posted on 10/11/2010 8:47:25 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Not to be contentious, but Sayid did torture Nadia before the Americans ever showed up. The difficulty for him was that he was being ordered to torture his own commander, who almost succeeded in neutering him through insults and insinuations.

However, I also got the impression that he went further for the Americans than he ever had for Saddam, and that is unlikely in the real world to several levels of magnitude.


124 posted on 10/11/2010 8:48:27 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: mom4kittys

“LOST is not meant for a passive viewer. Most people need thir entertainment to be force fed to them, hence the hostiity for the show.”

This is not the reason I dislike the series. The reasons I don’t find the show to be very enjoyable have to do with theological and ideological issues.


125 posted on 10/11/2010 8:50:56 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: mom4kittys

I was born and raise in Hawaii. Hawaii 5-0 was a favorite. I watched a little of the first episode. As you can imagine, I did not like what I saw. The only similarities between the old show vs. the new, besides the title, are that it’s filmed in Hawaii, and some of the characters names are the same as the original.


126 posted on 10/11/2010 8:54:03 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Huck

I can understand why you may believe I am “hooked” on the series, but this is not the case.

I’ll illustrate my point. Have you ever conducted a science experience in which you had no desire to perform? You completed the experiment because you were required to in order to earn credit for the work. You did not enjoy the project, but found some of the information to be interesting.

Such is the case with ‘LOST’. I don’t like the series at all. As a matter of fact, I would be happy as a lark if my family never watched another episode. I wouldn’t have bothered posting this thread if I knew they wouldn’t purchase the rest of the series.

The only reason I am seeking information concerning the series is because:

1. My family will most likely view the entire series. Our family watches films together as one form of spending time together, so I will surely watch ‘LOST’ with them.

2. I refuse to be taken on the ride J.J. Abrams and Co. wish to take its viewers knowing that the end will provide little, if any, true closure or an uplifting conclusion.

These are the reasons for my inquiry.


127 posted on 10/11/2010 9:07:23 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Oztrich Boy

I would encourage you to read it. It may appear to be long, but it isn’t, really.


128 posted on 10/11/2010 9:08:27 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: BelegStrongbow
Not to be contentious, but Sayid did torture Nadia before the Americans ever showed up. The difficulty for him was that he was being ordered to torture his own commander, who almost succeeded in neutering him through insults and insinuations.

I'm afraid you've gotten your timeline mixed up. In the show Sayid never tortured ANYONE until the Americans showed up. His torture of Nadia, in fact his entire torture career, all happened after the incident with the Americans and his commander. Sayid, himself, whines about how he was a good man who never did any of these horrible things until the Americans came. That was what made it so objectionable and ridiculous.
129 posted on 10/12/2010 1:15:05 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

I don’t think so. He was ordered to torture her by the very man the Americans then order him to torture. What he was whining about was the extremity to which he said the Americans drove him, not that he had never tortured, about which he was somewhat coy in remembrance.


130 posted on 10/12/2010 2:47:45 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: This Just In
typical "redneck"(Sawyer),... "religious wacko"(John Locke)

Hardly. Sawyer and Locke are two of the best characters in television history, imho. I loved Lost, and I loved almost all of it's main characters, but Sawyer was the best, plus he's absolutely gorgeous.

131 posted on 10/12/2010 3:11:15 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: Maurice Tift
For me, it was the best television series ever produced. Right now, I’m hooked on Fringe.

Agree 100%.

132 posted on 10/12/2010 3:20:20 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: BelegStrongbow
I don’t think so. He was ordered to torture her by the very man the Americans then order him to torture.

No, I don't believe that is correct. Sayid's commanding officer in the Nadia flashbacks is a different guy from the one he tortured during the Gulf War.
133 posted on 10/12/2010 3:21:22 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Lancey Howard
Perhaps you and the family would enjoy ‘Sons of Anarchy’. It’s pleasant family fare

LOL. I love Sons of Anarchy. It's one of my can't-miss shows.

134 posted on 10/12/2010 3:28:40 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: fr_freak

What I think we’re proving is that this is an incredibly tangential point, with considerable ambiguity as to timeline. The larger point now becomes even more credible: there are a few elements displaying a leftist point of view (surprise! whodathunkthat?) but ‘Lost’ was largely a non-partisan effort whose principal drawbacks were not unfair hits at American foreign policy but (1) three main characters whose personalities could not fully sustain the weight (2) inconsistent worldview leading to plot irregularities and causal problems (I’m thinking Charlotte here and Faraday as only one example - Juliet and Sawyer would be another) and (3) an unsatisfactory ending caused by trying not to offend any world religious tradition and, well, forgetting about some marginal characters.


135 posted on 10/12/2010 7:01:45 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Sandy

“Hardly. Sawyer and Locke are two of the best characters in television history”

My opinion did not concern whether or not Sawyer and Locke were one of the least “best characters in television history. That specific quote concerned the typical Leftist slant of the characters.

“I loved Lost, and I loved almost all of it’s main characters, but Sawyer was the best, plus he’s absolutely gorgeous.”

Well, you must admit that your opinion can hardly be objective due to your love for the series. And there is nothing inherently wrong with enjoying a television program you so thoroughly enjoy.


136 posted on 10/12/2010 10:35:04 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

How lucky to be raised in Hawaii! It is such a beautiful place. I watched the original Hawaii 5-O as a very young girl and I liked it a lot. I remember Jack Lord too.

I think I am mainly trying to like it for Daniel Dae Kim, however I tried to watch Vampire Diaries for Ian Somerhalder and couldn’t take it lol!


137 posted on 10/12/2010 4:48:01 PM PDT by mom4kittys (See you in another life, brotha)
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