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Mark Kirk, Alexi Giannoulias, Lib free or die; The Tea Drinker's Alternative
http://www.nbcchicago.com ^ | Sep 27, 2010 | BY Edward McClelland

Posted on 10/09/2010 10:09:10 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Mike Labno may be the Libertarian nominee for the U.S. Senate, but he’s not a libertarian.

Real libertarians don’t think the government should spend money on anything but roads, police and the army. But Labno, a 39-year-old construction manager from Oak Brook, was unemployed for 16 months during the recession, so he’s unwilling to pull the safety net out from other people who were “screwed” by government decisions.

Labno also opposes abortion and repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, two other positions that put him out of tune with classic libertarianism. He’s a right-wing populist, which actually makes him a better candidate than a doctrinaire member of his party.

Hoping to latch on to the Tea Party Movement’s momentum, Labno and seven or eight supporters stood in the parking lot of this month’s RightNation 2010 event, handing out fliers pointing out that he “was the only true fiscal conservative in the Senate race, and I was the only person out there who was pro-life, pro-Second Amendment.”

Tea Party followers are not enamored of Mark Kirk. As a result, Labno’s campaign has been adopted by Alexi Giannoulias, who hopes the Libertarian can steal conservative votes from his rival.

“The Republican Party is a shambles right now,” Labno said. “Look at what happened in Delaware. One of their hotshots was told to go home. If people vote for me as opposed to Mark Kirk or Giannoulias, then obviously those candidates are flawed. You see the other races in Illinois, and the top two guys have consumed most of the poll numbers. That’s not true with this Senate race. There is something wrong with these candidates.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: giannoulias; kirk; labno
A fairly balanced article on Mike Labno. He's on the October 10 edition of News Views for ABC7 Chicago. Watch Sunday morning at 9:10 am.

http://www.labno4senate.com/

Mike Labno for U.S. Senate

Mike Labno's a Tea Party Libertarian running against three big govt Liberals for Illinois Senate. They behave like he doesn't exist. He's on the ballot and they fear debating him. He's one man against the machine.

Main Campaign Site http://www.labno4senate.com/

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1 posted on 10/09/2010 10:09:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Wow, I’m impressed.
They didn’t call him “the teabagger’s alternative”!
This alone already makes it more balanced than 90% of the lamestream media articles out there.


2 posted on 10/09/2010 10:18:21 PM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: counterpunch

The only strategy the democrats have left is to try to cause conservatives to abandon the RINO republicans and vote third party. If they can take 3 or 4% to the Libertarian candidate it might be enough to get their Chicago machine democrat elected. The idea is to use our values to make us vote against our own self interest. Sorry, it won’t work this year.


3 posted on 10/09/2010 10:37:32 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Maelstorm

I debated Labno on Facebook back last spring on abortion and gay marriage and found I didn’t agree with him on some fundamental points. I know this is controversial here on FR but I think a Personhood strategy is morally and legally superior over a state’s rights strategy for ending abortion. Labno follows Ron Paul on this: the right to life does begin at conception (good), but federalism trumps the inalienable right to life (bad). I am sure he would vote for some pro-life legislation, unlike Kirk or Giannoulias, but I couldn’t seem to get him to ever say abortion is a moral wrong. As a Libertarian, I expected him to have trouble with that, and he did. So I’m really not sure of his ultimate commitment to pro-life values.

Also, he takes the classic libertarian view of gay marriage, despite the fact that normalizing gay marriage will have disastrous effects on heterosexuals who see homosexuality as sin, particularly in the areas of freedom of religion, freedom of association, and family law.

Can Labno win? I doubt it. He can’t pull in the full-spectrum social conservatives, he won’t pull in the fiscal liberals (way too numerous here in Illinois), and Kirk is “repentant” of his fiscal indiscretions, so Labno can only pull a fraction of the vote from Kirk that a full Reagan conservative could. Giannoulias is more self-destructive than Kirk, so I’m calling Kirk to win this. I won’t vote for him. I won’t vote for anyone who will betray the unborn (Kirk), and I won’t vote for anyone who will betray the family (Labno). Sorry.


4 posted on 10/09/2010 11:23:59 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Maelstorm
"Labno...was unemployed for 16 months during the recession, so he’s unwilling to pull the safety net out from other people"

Sounds like this clown sat at home for 16 months sucking from the government's teet. Now he pretends he is a conservative. Looks like a Dem plant. Luckily he only has 8 supporters.

5 posted on 10/09/2010 11:58:50 PM PDT by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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To: Maelstorm

The real effect will be to spoil that seat for the GOP. I would not be surprised to see the likes of Soros quietly funding Labno.


6 posted on 10/10/2010 12:12:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: excopconservative

Is voting for a RINO in our own best interest?
If they are going to vote the same in the Senate, then wouldn’t it be better for the Democrats to own them?

And if the RINO loses enough votes, it might send a message to the IL GOP that Republicans don’t want any more Combiners.


7 posted on 10/10/2010 12:16:30 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: counterpunch

Is voting for a RINO in our own best interest?
If they are going to vote the same in the Senate, then wouldn’t it be better for the Democrats to own them?


If you think that way, then vote against McCain, Kirk, Rossi, and every other RINO running and the result is we lose. What have you accomplished? Defeat stolen from the jaws of victory again by self-defeating Republicans. The time to oppose these RINOs was in their primaries. We had our chance to defeat them. Now we must win with them. We aren’t just playing political games now. The democrat agenda is straight out of Marx and Engels. We have to get control of both the House and Senate to stop it from advancing and the presidency to reverse it.


8 posted on 10/10/2010 12:39:49 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: excopconservative

I support Rossi. But it is my understanding that Kirk is a true RINO in the most literal sense. He is worse than Castle or Mirkcowsky.

People said Castle needed to win because O’Donnell was as good as defeated in the general election. That is most likely true. So what is your position on that?

Are you unhappy that O’Donnell triumphed over Castle?


9 posted on 10/10/2010 1:57:27 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: excopconservative
Rossi isn't a RINO, he's a right-of-center Republican. RINO stands for Republican In Name Only.

McCain isn't a RINO either, through many freepers continue to rant and rave that is. McCain supports the Republican platform most of the time but has stabbed us in the back on some really important stuff and basks in the MSM spotlight.

Mark Kirk IS a RINO. He is more liberal than many card-carrying Democrat officials. This scumbag even voted for cap n' trade and partial birth abortion, and endorsed Elena Kagan. He's so damn extreme that the Jim & Sarah Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence just endorsed him OVER his Chicago machine Democrat opponent. That's not right-of-center, or even "moderate" or "centrist". That's liberal.

There is nothing Republican about Kirk. Sure he may have voted "with us" on a couple of issues, like tax cuts, but so did at least two-dozen card-carrying House RATs like Stephanie Hersch-Sadlin. That doesn't make them "Republican" anymore than it makes Kirk one.

Kirk is straight out of the same tactics that gave us Jeffords, Chafee, and Specter. We learned the hard way what happens when we elect "Republicans" like that. The only people that gained from having those "Republicans" in office were Democrats. Sorry, it won't work again this time. We won't vote for socialists who happen to have an "R" next to their name.

10 posted on 10/10/2010 2:20:15 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
>> The real effect will be to spoil that seat for the GOP. I would not be surprised to see the likes of Soros quietly funding Labno. <<

Would you be surprised to find the likes of Tony Rezko (you might remember him, the Obama slumlord who is the top-bankroller for all the major Chicago machine Democrat officials), is funding "Republican" Mark Kirk? I would be happy to provide you with a link verifying it.

11 posted on 10/10/2010 2:24:04 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: coaltrain
Sounds like this clown Mark Kirk sat at home in Congress for 16 months 10 years sucking from the government's teet. Now he pretends he is a conservative. Looks like a Dem plant. Luckily he only has 8 conservative supporters on FR.

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There, now your post is accurate. :-)

12 posted on 10/10/2010 2:31:59 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Maelstorm

The reason ABC7 Chicago is featuring him is they know a vote for him takes away votes from Kirk and helps to elect Alexi.


13 posted on 10/10/2010 2:47:36 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: counterpunch

Are you unhappy that O’Donnell triumphed over Castle?


No. That was a primary where those contests are supposed to happen. We are running the winners of the primaries in both DE and IL.


14 posted on 10/10/2010 3:19:37 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: excopconservative

But, one could argue that O’Donnell has about as much hope of winning in Delaware as Labno has in Illinois. If it is all about maximizing senate gains, then you should be upset that Castle didn’t win, because that is very likely one less GOP seat in the end. Castle losing in the primary because of O’Donnell results in the same ultimate outcome as Kirk losing in the general because of Labno: a Democrat victory.

It is a distinction without a difference. So why are you treating them differently?

If O’Donnell was a statement worth making and a risk worth taking in September, then Labno is a statement worth making and a risk worth taking in November.


15 posted on 10/10/2010 3:42:01 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I agree. The time to vote against rinos is in the primary elections. A republican majority in the house and senate will be a tremendous advantage—even if some of them are rinos—(hopefully much fewer in number than in the past). In the general election you can't sit it out just because the candidate of your party isn't everything you want him to be. Still be a hell of a lot better than a democrat in the seat.
16 posted on 10/10/2010 4:48:55 AM PDT by liberalcide1
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To: excopconservative

I used to think that most of those who shout RINO were trolls.
Not any more.

A far right guy I work with voted for the dear leader to teach McCain a lesson!
We can see just how well that worked out!


17 posted on 10/10/2010 8:13:47 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Maelstorm

Labno, a 39-year-old construction manager from Oak Brook ....

Okay. This may be some nit-picking but I don't think he's a "construction manager". Which in every article I've seen about him that Title is used to describe him. Because also in every article there's the picture above of him working on a Electrical Panel, or one like it with him and an Electrician working at a Panel.

Well here's an inside tip,

A "Construction Manager" doesn't work on Electrical Panels, or anything else. As a "Construction Manager" is a Company, Corporation, or LLC. A "Construction Manager" is a thing, not a job, nor a Job Title. If anything he's a "Project Manager" for an Electrical Company that does Subcontract work for a, (ta-da), "Construction Manager" firm, or General Contractor Co. (Though GC's are becoming rarer and rarer)

And to further 'nitpick', the function of a Project Manager is NOT to do hands on, field correction, and/or supervision of 'his' men's work. The fact is, a Project Manager doesn't even get his hands dirty. As such, all these pictures of him 'working' makes me think he's not even a Project Manger, but a Field Superintendent or even just a Foreman.

Now this *mistake* occurs too much for me to think it's an honest mistake as there's a HUGH difference between all the above. So to me there appears to be some "resume padding" going on here. Which is not exactly 'honest'.

My Curriculum Vitae:

Commercial Construction Industry in Chi metro area for Forty Years. Starting from Draftsman, to Designer, to 'practical engineer', to Project Manager, to Estimator, and Chief Estimator. Projects include everything from 50+ Story Hi-Rises, 40 Story Condo/Apartment Buildings, Office Buildings, Federal Government Buildings, Hospitals, Schools, Libraries and Village Halls.

Ergo, I know what a "Construction Manager" is, what they 'ain't', what a Project Manager is and does. Ditto for Superintendents and Foremen.

Ergo, something is wrong with this picture of Mike Labno and 'Construction Manager'. (if he's a 'Field Super', fine, say so. That's an honest living.)

18 posted on 10/10/2010 8:57:23 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: liberalcide1; counterpunch

I live near Chicago. When I vote, if I think that the U.S. Senate race will be close, I’ll vote for Rep. Kirk (my congressman), since I don’t want to help split the anti-Democrat vote, helping the Democrat win with 49% of the vote. If I think that the race won’t be close, I’ll vote for Labno.


19 posted on 10/11/2010 8:51:26 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“The reason ABC7 Chicago is featuring him is they know a vote for him takes away votes from Kirk and helps to elect Alexi.”

I thought the same when I saw this report. Suddenly the MSM is going to give time to 3rd and 4th party candidates? The battles should be fought in the primaries. Conservatives need to work harder during the primaries to get their candidates into the general election.


20 posted on 10/11/2010 9:11:43 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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