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Man jailed over computer password refusal
BBC ^ | 5 October 2010 | Unknown

Posted on 10/06/2010 12:18:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce

A teenager has been jailed for 16 weeks after he refused to give police the password to his computer.

Oliver Drage, 19, of Liverpool, was arrested in May 2009 by police tackling child sexual exploitation.

Police seized his computer but could not access material on it as it had a 50-character encryption password.

Drage was convicted of failing to disclose an encryption key in September. He was sentenced at Preston Crown Court on Monday.

Drage, was arrested when he was living in Freckleton, Lancashire, but later moved to Liverpool.

He was formally asked to disclose his password but failed to do so, which is an offence under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, police said.

'Robust message'

Officers are still trying to crack the code on the computer to examine its contents.

Det Sgt Neil Fowler, of Lancashire police, said: "Drage was previously of good character so the immediate custodial sentence handed down by the judge in this case shows just how seriously the courts take this kind of offence.

"Computer systems are constantly advancing and the legislation used here was specifically brought in to deal with those who are using the internet to commit crime.

"It sends a robust message out to those intent on trying to mask their online criminal activities that they will be taken before the courts with the ultimate sanction, as in this case, being a custodial sentence."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; childporn; papersplease; passwords; policestate; porn; pornification; pornography
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1 posted on 10/06/2010 12:18:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

2 posted on 10/06/2010 12:23:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Did he say he forgot it?


3 posted on 10/06/2010 12:35:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: ShadowAce

“I forgot it” would have been a better answer


4 posted on 10/06/2010 12:36:15 PM PDT by Mr. K (PALADINO for GOV. OF NY --- VOTE LIKE YOUR CHILD'S LIFE DEPENDS ON IT! (BECAUSE IT DOES))
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To: ShadowAce

Your password are belong to us...


5 posted on 10/06/2010 12:37:01 PM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: ShadowAce

Kate to Luc: “It’s a free country ... isn’t it?”


6 posted on 10/06/2010 12:38:15 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: ShadowAce
The best bet is to nest an encrypted volume within an encrypted volume.

You give them the outer password, and they never know the inner volume exists.

It's called plausible deniability.

7 posted on 10/06/2010 12:39:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: ShadowAce

Forgot your Windows NT/2k/XP/Vista/Win7 admin password?

http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/

with a warrant of course!


8 posted on 10/06/2010 12:39:45 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: ShadowAce
"Officers are still trying to crack the code on the computer to examine its contents.

And they should be able to crack it...in about 100,000 years. Truecrypt is your friend.

9 posted on 10/06/2010 12:39:45 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: ShadowAce
Ultra High Security Password Generator
10 posted on 10/06/2010 12:41:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ShadowAce
In the USA, would this be protected by the 5th amendment protection against self-incrimination?

-PJ

11 posted on 10/06/2010 12:44:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I would think so.

My other question is "Are the police engaged in anti-DMCA activities?"

12 posted on 10/06/2010 1:08:06 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Soothesayer9
And they should be able to crack it...in about 100,000 years.

**** Warning: Extreme Nerd Content Follows ****

The story says that his password is 50 characters long. Even if the only characters used were alphabetical, and case wasn't taken into account, that would be 26 available characters. The possible combinations for his password would be 26^50 (twenty six to the fiftieth power).

That 5.6ee70 possible combinations.

If the police were to launch a brute-force attack (try all possible combinations of characters) on this password, and they could try 1,000,000 different combinations every second...

Number of Combinations / (1,000,000 tries per second) * (60 seconds per minute) * (60 minutes per hour) * (24 hours per day) * (365 days per year) =

1.7ee57 (that's 17 with 56 zeros) years to crack the password.

Someone correct my math if I'm wrong.

**** Nerd Mode Off ****

13 posted on 10/06/2010 2:19:45 PM PDT by Washi
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To: ShadowAce

There might be a 5th amendment question here. Providing a password could be self incriminating. If they have seized his gear, it should be law enforcement’s responsibility(or problem in this case) to access it. Not the defendant’s.


14 posted on 10/06/2010 3:53:31 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn; bamahead

bump’n’ping


15 posted on 10/06/2010 4:24:15 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: KoRn

This is England. They don’t got no steeenkin amendments. Or rights.


16 posted on 10/06/2010 4:48:03 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: KoRn

no 5th in the UK. I remember when this compulsory password-divulging was being discussed around 2003. Quite Orwellian, but then again, that is the modern UK.


17 posted on 10/06/2010 4:56:25 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Washi

I’ll bet that this is it:

“o08fr~^K89nRX[eK~J9)/dF)Fj.gOo*=Qj%-GKVc)(@BYy_YB7R%C&p:(y*0fRx”


18 posted on 10/06/2010 5:03:21 PM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: ShadowAce
If he has child porn on the drive, he is ahead to take the punishment for not turning over the password. If he hands it over, the consequences could be significantly worse.
19 posted on 10/06/2010 5:24:50 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This guy was hiding child porn, not the plans to our rebel alliance. Military secrets and intellectual property should be protected as you suggest. Let's hope the scumbags don't get too good at covering their tracks.
20 posted on 10/06/2010 5:38:08 PM PDT by Defiant (Liberals care more about the Koran than they did about Terri Schiavo.)
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