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Taxing drivers by the mile and not by the gallon
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | Tuesday, October 5, 2010 | Monitor's Editorial Board

Posted on 10/05/2010 11:01:36 AM PDT by Willie Green

A tax on vehicle miles traveled (VMT) was shot down last year by President Obama. But a new study by respected transportation experts – and a successful pilot program in Oregon – should revive the idea.

As more Americans buy hybrid or electric cars, drivers in traditional gas-only vehicles are bound to start asking: Why should I still be paying more in fuel taxes? Don’t we all use the highways?

Indeed, the gas tax is quickly becoming an unjust way to finance the costs of roads and bridges. All vehicles, whether they be a Hummer or a Prius, use the same infrastructure, which needs to be built and maintained regardless of a car’s fuel type.

There is an alternative, one that is fair, already proven, and, based on a new study by some 80 experts, the best way to start financing surface transportation.

It is a pay-as-you-go fee system based simply on distance, or a tax on “vehicle miles traveled” (VMT). The idea is the centerpiece recommendation of the study, released Monday, called “Well Within Reach: America’s New Transportation Agenda.” The report is based on a recent three-day conference of experts at the University of Virginia.

Oregon already tested a VMT system in 2006-07, using 299 volunteer motorists. The pilot program equipped their vehicles with devices that allowed gas stations to track their mileage during each fill-up. More than 90 percent of the participants said they would agree to use it in lieu of the gas tax, and the state’s governor is now seeking $10 million to expand the program.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: plotting; plottingandscheming; scheming; taxes
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To: earlJam

Are you trying to make sense?

That is NOT allowed!


21 posted on 10/05/2010 11:09:59 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Steely Tom
Oops. Whom do they think they're kidding?
22 posted on 10/05/2010 11:10:42 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Willie Green

Wouldn’t that serve as a disincentive to purchase fuel efficient vehicles?


23 posted on 10/05/2010 11:10:58 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Willie Green
This started out as a discussion regarding reduced gas tax revenues because cars were getting better MPG’s, specifically the Prius.

I don't recall if Oregon ever came out and said a road use tax will replace the gas tax.
I’m guessing it's going to be in addition to, rather than a replacement.

24 posted on 10/05/2010 11:11:09 AM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: LadyBuck
More likely, it will be IN ADDITION TO the gas tax.

Beat me by 18 seconds.

25 posted on 10/05/2010 11:11:12 AM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: Willie Green
Really? Really? Are you really going to try to tell me that you will get rid of the gas tax. hahahahhahaha, oh that is a good one.

80 Experts That right there is a flag that it is a huge pile of Bravo Sierra

26 posted on 10/05/2010 11:11:22 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Palin Haley O'Donnell - mmm mmmm mmmmmmmmm)
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To: Willie Green

27 posted on 10/05/2010 11:12:22 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Willie Green

“A tax on vehicle miles traveled (VMT) was shot down last year by President Obama.”

As much as he travels, I can understand why, but I can’t believe he actually met a tax he didn’t like.


28 posted on 10/05/2010 11:13:14 AM PDT by Califreak (A man is defined by the nature of his enemies-Preach it Rush!)
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To: Willie Green
Taxing drivers by the and not by the gallon

Taxing drivers by the mile AND by the gallon.

There. Fixed it.

29 posted on 10/05/2010 11:13:21 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: traditional1

I believe the tax on telephones to finance the Spanish-American war, was repealed recently.


30 posted on 10/05/2010 11:13:53 AM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Willie Green

Typical big government BS. People are buying cars that get better gas mileage, thus paying less gas tax, so now they want to tax the miles. Liberals are always looking to punish success.


31 posted on 10/05/2010 11:14:21 AM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: Cicero

Just one problem. It does take money to build and maintain roads. A lot of money.

If the money does not come from a gas tax or a tax on miles driven, it will have to come from some other type of tax. Which do you propose? Income, sales, property, estate?

The alternative, of course, is to cut back on highway construction and maintenance, but then many people already complain about inadequate maintenance.

I’m sure a lot of money is wasted by the road departments, but at some point cutting back on funding results in a lower level of quality. That’s the cost of lower taxes in this case.


32 posted on 10/05/2010 11:14:27 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I know the answer: we should all ride trains!

Hey, that's a good idea!

I wish I had thought of that!

33 posted on 10/05/2010 11:14:44 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer ~ and some people polka.)
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To: Willie Green
All vehicles, whether they be a Hummer or a Prius, use the same infrastructure, which needs to be built and maintained regardless of a car’s fuel type.

Actually, heavier vehicles cause more wear and tear on the infrastructure, and use more fuel, thus pay more tax per mile. The fuel tax is more fair than a mileage tax, and much less intrusive.

34 posted on 10/05/2010 11:15:03 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Willie Green

How in tarnation does a gas station track my miles between fillups?

Maybe the electric cars need to pay by the mile, but those of us who drive older vehicles pay alot in gas taxes now. We don’t need any more tax applied.


35 posted on 10/05/2010 11:15:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Willie Green

If half the time and creative energy went into solving the world’s problems that goes into thinking about how to tax citizens of the world’s nations, we’d all be living in a modern Utopia.

At what point will we be asked to simply hand over all assets to The State?


36 posted on 10/05/2010 11:15:03 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Willie Green

What about the Federal Excise Tax on tires?


37 posted on 10/05/2010 11:16:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: CodeToad

You left out, “We know exactly where you went, and want to talk with you about it.”


38 posted on 10/05/2010 11:17:00 AM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: MichaelP

Actually, I have no problem with a market based solution. You buy fuel based on your vehicle’s fuel economy, how much you travel ect. I did the math myself and they are pretty correct in that .01 per mile is approximately the same as .184 per gal. There is no major difference except that it does not allow a more fuel efficent user to gain an advantage over another. It’s just equal application against all users of the highway.

Here in lies the rub though: how do you implement it effectively to where your neighbor can’t steal your ID if you have to punch in a highway tax ID #, or keep the fed gov from putting a GPS system on your car and knowing where you are 24/7/365. If they’d stop robbing the damned trust fund, they could rebuild our roads. Also, if they stopped printing money, the inflationary burn on .184 dollars per gal would actually still be worth a bit more.


39 posted on 10/05/2010 11:17:45 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("MOLON LABE")
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To: Willie Green

Reality check…Higher miles per gallon, less fuel tax!

What a load…this is not about miles driven or the roads.

Have to fund the “Life Styles of the Corrupt and Political” somehow; this is what people are unhappy about.


40 posted on 10/05/2010 11:17:45 AM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about their misdirection!)
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