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About the Presidential Power to Pardon (Would Hussein DARE to try and Pardon Illegals?)
Jurist Law at Pitt ^
Posted on 10/04/2010 6:38:50 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
The President's pardon power is established under the United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2:
The President ... shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment...
But how, if at all, should such a power be limited? A proposal introduced by Connecticut's Roger Sherman to make Presidential pardons subject to the consent of the Senate was considered but quickly rejected by the Convention (the Senate was deemed to be powerful enough already). So was Luther Martin's suggestion of confining pardons to convicted persons only...
With the single exception of impeachment, then, the pardon power emerged from Philadelphia as exclusive, broad, and unfettered by the regular checks and balances of the governmental structure.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: amnesty; history; pardons
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To: Pharmboy
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posted on
10/04/2010 8:05:04 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
To: Recovering_Democrat
He can pardon them from PAST crimes, but not for future ones. By being here illegally, they commit a crime every moment of every day.
The lawyers would eat this one up - if only because of the time to be billed for extravagant court cases.
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posted on
10/04/2010 8:12:44 PM PDT
by
MortMan
(To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
To: traditional1
Well, so far he’s been waving his magic wand and getting his way about just about everything he “wanted” so far. He’s had the majority to do it. He does as he pleases. No matter who it chaps, it seems. If anyone bucks him, he plays the race card, or the lapdog media plays the race card. - What a revoltin’ development this is!
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posted on
10/04/2010 8:20:35 PM PDT
by
Twinkie
(TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!)
To: Recovering_Democrat
Those that get a “pardon” from Obama may have to pay the Piper later on...Obama failed to qualify to even be President.
In effect he has no standing to pardon anyone.
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posted on
10/04/2010 8:22:36 PM PDT
by
Eye of Unk
(If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
To: Recovering_Democrat
Could a pardon be a blanket pardon, or would it have to name each person?
Of course hussein will try it. He's only doing one term anyway.
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posted on
10/04/2010 8:40:16 PM PDT
by
ThunderSleeps
(obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
To: Recovering_Democrat
Maybe he can pardon an illegal alien but he can’t make them legal.
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posted on
10/04/2010 9:28:44 PM PDT
by
Mike Darancette
(11/2/10-Obama: Close your eyes and think of Kenya)
To: Recovering_Democrat
It would appear he can but his actions would make him subject to impeachment.
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posted on
10/04/2010 9:41:00 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
To: spectre; truthkeeper; processing please hold; antceecee; navymom1; jaredt112; Edgerunner; ...
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posted on
10/05/2010 4:35:02 AM PDT
by
bcsco
(Karl Rove, from Magnificent Bastard to Malignant Bastard in one day...)
To: SunkenCiv
Wouldn’t they have to be convicted in a court of law first? They are innocent until proven guilty...you can’t pardon an innocent person.
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posted on
10/05/2010 5:13:08 AM PDT
by
Pharmboy
(What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
To: Recovering_Democrat
But how, if at all, should such a power be limited? It's already limited by the Constitution itself.
When they said - The President ... shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, they meant offenses against they areas of jurisdiction held by the federal government, NOT the entire country.
As another poster pointed out, 'pardons' cannot confer citizenship....but then again, neither does the ability to make a uniform rule of naturalization.
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posted on
10/05/2010 5:47:55 AM PDT
by
MamaTexan
(I am a Person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
To: Recovering_Democrat
Try it before the elections?
Could they be that stupid?
Try it after the elections?
If the elections go as we think, he doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance.
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posted on
10/05/2010 7:00:10 AM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: traditional1
This is ludicrous, and even The Messiah can't wave his magic wand and expect that Americans will accept it. Watch the rebellion begin in earnest.
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posted on
10/05/2010 7:01:26 AM PDT
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: Pharmboy
Nope, a pardon is a get-out-of-indictment-free card. The idea here I believe is that Zero might pardon them for being in the country illegally, perhaps giving them immunity from deportation.
But not from getting shot on sight.
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posted on
10/05/2010 4:53:47 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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