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Conservatives denounce GOP 'Pledge' as sellout, inside job
The Daily Caller ^ | 9/25/10 | Jon Ward

Posted on 09/26/2010 9:19:11 AM PDT by GOPavenger33

House Republicans have been relatively successful this week at presenting a united front around their “Pledge to America,” but only through a strategic outreach campaign to lawmakers, media and outside groups, that has managed to keep deep dissatisfaction over several key issues largely under wraps.

Still, interviews with Republican aides reveal that many in the GOP caucus are unhappy that there was no earmark ban and no promise to pass a balanced budget amendment in the proposal, which was unveiled Thursday by House Minority Leader John Boehner. The inclusion of a health insurance provision considered to be mandate angered many conservative lawmakers.

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To: JSteff

It was also a strategic error. It ;eaves the door open for the rats to claim they’ll balance the budget. Most will laugh at that, but we have proof sitting in the White House right now that there are pleanty of voters dumb enough to believe them.


121 posted on 09/26/2010 1:47:37 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: GOPavenger33

And also...We don’t need a pledge from the rino’s. We need conservative in office who work on a continuous basis to return this country to where it should be. The GOP would work through such a list in a half hearted way(Not fully living up to it) and then say “All Done” we can go back to the way we were.


122 posted on 09/26/2010 1:51:05 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Servant of the Cross

I know.
And the troll succeeded in getting people to shred each other with this thread.


123 posted on 09/26/2010 1:51:39 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Walts Ice Pick

I mostly agree, but I think it’s obvious that a promise to balance the budget is impossible to implement while zero is in the WH. What they could have promised is to submit a balanced budget that includes no earmarks.


124 posted on 09/26/2010 1:51:39 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: AvOrdVet
Um ... you might want to cut back on the redbull.

No poster on the thread has suggested the 'pledge' is perfect. It's nothing more than a start, placed in writing to say to prospective voters what the Nov. 2010 GOP candidates are for. Unfortunately, the electorate in this country is not as educated or conservative as those on FR. (Exhibit A is presently in the WH). We are American Idol Elects A President. That means in a pratical way that it will be a game of inches and an incremental strategy of continually making gains is the winning formula. That means some RINOs stay, FOR NOW, if they beat the better conservative in the primary. But imho, we're making some great strides in turning congress much more conservative.

The best thing that could happen after we take the House is Speaker Pence and Leader DeMint. The moderates in the party are a distinct, and fearful, minority. This is a good thing, not bad.

Btw, you do realize that the ferocity of your YELLING at fellow conservatives for not being pure enough is the perfect strategy for a DU troll on a conservative site.

125 posted on 09/26/2010 1:56:09 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe baby!)
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To: Darksheare
I know... And the troll succeeded in getting people to shred each other with this thread.

No shredding going on here... just some "FRiendly" disagreements on how we should meet our constitutional "responsibilities"... ;-)

126 posted on 09/26/2010 1:56:43 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet
YOU and others need to get on the right side of this fight and stand with principles

Wow. I gave you a chance to respond in agreement, but you went with the personal attack game..............again. And a really nasty attack that I'm unprincipled and on the wrong side of the fight for the soul of America. What a creepy thing to say to a fellow conservative.

btw, the poster of this thread is a troll. Hating Republicans doesn't prove anyone is a conservative. This guy could be David Axelrod or Rahm Emmanuel. Don't be so fast to stand with the guy.

See you, AvOrdVet. I like a good argument, but the sucker punches you throw take all the fun out of it.

127 posted on 09/26/2010 2:00:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: AvOrdVet; GOPavenger33

But that’s not what trollposter GOPavenger33 sees.


128 posted on 09/26/2010 2:02:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: AvOrdVet; ohioWfan; MNJohnnie
No shredding going on here ...

I expect that OhioWFan and MNJohnnie might disagree with that statement. You quickly threw the GOPBOT slam at them for merely expressing their opinions.

129 posted on 09/26/2010 2:03:22 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe baby!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
That means some RINOs stay, FOR NOW, if they beat the better conservative in the primary. But imho, we're making some great strides in turning congress much more conservative.

I am not a "purist" by any stretch of the imagination, but when the GOP CONTINUES to throw up RINOs even though they know the tide has turned (Murkowski, Castle and a host of others) it shows that the GOP is not worthy of our trust.

And for you and others to continue your rants on why conservatives should abandon their principles and vote for a party that has, with the liberal Dems, pretty much destroyed our great Republic, is not winning very many over to your side of the issue.

You and other persist in attacking fellow conservative because they do not automatically and blindly agree to cast their votes for the GOP. So just as with the '06 and '08 elections, if the GOP losses again, it is no ones fault but their own...

130 posted on 09/26/2010 2:10:28 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Servant of the Cross

i may be zotted for this comment but, none of us is perfect, nothing ever will be perfect, and dang, here we go again?


131 posted on 09/26/2010 2:10:43 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform)
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To: GOPavenger33

Geesh, I thought the mid terms 2010 was about stopping the Obama agenda.

Thats about all we can do right now. All this other stuff is cluster f***.

Win the WH with a conservative in 2012, then we are talking.


132 posted on 09/26/2010 2:13:51 PM PDT by dforest
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To: AvOrdVet

"There you go again More Negative waves. Have a little faith Baby, have a little faith"

And for you and others to continue your rants on why conservatives should abandon their principles ...

*sigh* Please point out to me my post where I suggested (ranted?) anything like that.

133 posted on 09/26/2010 2:15:18 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe baby!)
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To: AvOrdVet; Servant of the Cross; MNJohnnie
You're right, Servant.

This guy came out swinging, when all MNJohnnie and I were doing was pointing out the obvious....that this poster is a drive-by troll.

Look at this post...

Look who's talking, first thing the GOPBOTS start doing is attacking the Conservatives... AGAIN.

The GOP Kool-Aid drinkers can have a problem with a post without their continuing attacks on conservatives!

But since you asked, the so-called "pledge" is as worthless as the paper it is printed on. The only "pledge" I want to hear is "I will uphold my OATH to Protect and Defend"... saying anything else is just worthless dribble that the GOP will violate as soon as they step into office!

As I said above; Free Republic is a Conservative Website, not a GOP website... wanna feel loved, then head on over to the official GOP/RNC website.

Coming on FR and belittling Conservatives will get you no where!

Loaded with ad hominems and goofy accusations in response to my 'attacking' the obvious troll.

Maybe it is Red Bull, Servant. Something's amiss, that's for sure. Shredding and attacking going on all over the place.

134 posted on 09/26/2010 2:22:59 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
Wow. I gave you a chance to respond in agreement

Hey don't take it personal that I don't agree with your stances 100%, we agree on some areas and I vehemently disagree on others... that is called debate, and that is what our country was founded on.

And a really nasty attack that I'm unprincipled and on the wrong side of the fight for the soul of America

Defense against an attack is acceptable... Go back through YOUR posts and you will see where this all started. I will apologize when I am wrong or when I have been unfair... in this case no apology is required.

btw, the poster of this thread is a troll. Hating Republicans doesn't prove anyone is a conservative. This guy could be David Axelrod or Rahm Emmanuel. Don't be so fast to stand with the guy.

Again you and others seem to think I am in league with the poster, My posts have absolutely nothing to do with the original post... It started with you and others calling Conservatives that do not agree with you, "purists" that should instead automatically throw in with a political party that has done nothing but stick their fingers in the conservatives eye for the last 40+ years.

There is always room for agreement, but with the GOP it needs to be based on trust, and as of now I don't trust 'em... at all.

135 posted on 09/26/2010 2:27:23 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Servant of the Cross; AvOrdVet
You know what's funny, Servant.....I'm on the record here AGAINST Castle, Murkowski, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Graham, etc.....

But since I'm NOT against Pence, Bachman, Jordan (MY Congressman), Cantor, DeMint, etc.....I'm a "GOPBOT."

He's flailing. He's dead wrong.

And he's doing EXACTLY what he claims to be against. He's attacking fellow conservatives.

Best to leave him alone, methinks.

(btw, I don't think I've ever told you, but I LOVE your screenname!)

136 posted on 09/26/2010 2:32:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Actually my previous post #135 says it all... and by the way Oddball is one of my heroes!
137 posted on 09/26/2010 2:34:05 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet
It started with you, Av. You leveled spurious charges and started flailing with name-calling from the get go. It wasn't about ideas or debate. It was ranting, and ridiculous.

The poster is a troll, and you've gone to great lengths to attack conservatives who figured out who he was....... a drive-by leftist who will soon be zotted.

As you said, this is a conservative website. Act like one. Knock off the ad hominems.

138 posted on 09/26/2010 2:36:35 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: FourPeas

Is the Daily Caller a leftist propaganda rag?


139 posted on 09/26/2010 2:39:32 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: ohioWfan
and I LOVE proud Mom's of Bronze Star recipients! Thank your son for his great service to his country.

O H ...

140 posted on 09/26/2010 2:40:01 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe baby!)
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