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1 posted on 09/25/2010 1:04:11 PM PDT by Palter
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The perils of ignoring it are far worse. You end up with an oligarchy of people who firmly believe that they can do whatever they want regardless of what the mere mortals want or think.


32 posted on 09/25/2010 2:02:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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Note to the folks at The Economist: Talk about biting the hand that feeds you....
39 posted on 09/25/2010 2:15:53 PM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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The Economist is a Brit rag. They can’t stand that our forefathers won this nation’s Independence from their sorry asses!


40 posted on 09/25/2010 2:24:23 PM PDT by gitmogrunt
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More to the point is that the constitution provides few answers to the hard questions thrown up by modern politics. Should gays marry? No answer there.

A number of judiciaries claim otherwise - I won't say they believe it, but they claim it nonetheless. In any event, either such judges are correct, and the Constitution really does grant a host of hidden rights nowhere mentioned by name or they're incorrect and are subverting their positions for their personal goals. Either way, it's an issue that must be addressed; and what's truly infantile is the author's thinking he can just brush the question aside based on his own preferences.

41 posted on 09/25/2010 2:27:25 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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Major tailspin into an uninformative thud.

>> Indeed, there is something infantile in the belief of the constitution-worshippers that the complex political arguments of today...

Possession where? The infantile editors at the Econimist?


43 posted on 09/25/2010 2:29:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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infantile?

he can got to hail

figures he’s from hah vuhd


45 posted on 09/25/2010 2:37:22 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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“Wouldn’t it be splendid if the solutions to America’s problems could be written down in a slim book no bigger than a passport that you could slip into your breast pocket?”

It could fit on a slip of paper “Get rid of those who hate America and support the Conservatives and entrepreneurs. Study the Bible throughly and follow its wisdom.”

Now - how much space did that take?


46 posted on 09/25/2010 2:44:34 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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Herein lies the great divide, which leads those unfamiliar with the American system to err:

We (as Americans) must believe in the "consent of the governed." That consent is embodied in the founding documents, and is protected by the limitations put upon our government within them.

It isn't a matter of government worship - It is a liberal mind that even conceives that notion. It's all about enforcing the original contract.

47 posted on 09/25/2010 2:45:47 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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Indeed, there is something infantile in the belief of the constitution-worshippers that the complex political arguments of today can be settled by simple fidelity to a document written in the 18th century.

There is something infantile in the belief of half-educated British media poofs that human nature has changed at all since the 18th century.

49 posted on 09/25/2010 3:13:04 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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Wouldn't it be splendid if the solutions to America’s problems could be written down in a slim book no bigger than a passport that you could slip into your breast pocket?

Don't even need that much print. Legalize freedom. Works every time.

51 posted on 09/25/2010 3:24:50 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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Projectile vomiting here

this from a country that lets illegal squatters throw a elderly man out of his house and the police are too PC to deal it or deal with the yobs

52 posted on 09/25/2010 3:25:55 PM PDT by Charlespg
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Just what we need. Another newbie telling us that the Constitution is outdated and inadequate for “modern” times.

Get lost.


54 posted on 09/25/2010 3:30:09 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Stopped reading this poorly worded piece right here:
The Declaration of Independence and the constitution have been venerated for two centuries. But thanks to the tea-party movement they are enjoying a dramatic revival.

Pssst--hey, copy editor---"venerated" means "revered". So, if these documents were "venerated" for 2 centuries, where is the "peril of Constitution worship"?

IATZ?

56 posted on 09/25/2010 3:32:58 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (I know that the voices in my head aren't real, but they do have some great ideas)
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Seems to me that the only thing that the original Constitution did was form the monster in Washington. It was written in language that invited the usurpation that has taken place for over 100 years. Thank God some folks saw the shortcomings and insisted on that list of “negative rights for the government” before they agreed to ratify Mr. Madison’s document.

The first 10 amendments are the only part of the Constitution worthy of high esteem and they exist to protect us from the entity created by the original document. Judging by the number and scope of the usurpations by that entity, they really haven’t done a good job.

Don’t think anybody considers any of the Constitution sacred but it was the agreement between the states when they created the monster and we would just like to get back to that point. We were a free people when the monster was created and now; not so much. Sort of like “Restore to a prior date”.


58 posted on 09/25/2010 3:40:34 PM PDT by fewz
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"Constitutional idolatry" is sneering mockery, not sober analysis. In fact, there is nothing in the least wrong with insisting that the social contract that forms the political foundation of the country be adhered to. Adhering to an agreement does not constitute worship.

The author's case, if it might be flattered by the term, is a sad example of how far down the Economist has fallen in terms of editorial standards. The same pen that mocks those wishing to live up to an agreement writes the silliest nonsense as if it were received wisdom, with no argument or evidence in support. For example:

But this is a case that needs to be made and remade from first principles in every political generation...

Really? Why is that? Does the author really believe that the basis of a country's legal code and governmental structure needs to be reinvented each generation from first principles? What on earth for? And who says so?

The reply is silence, which is probably a mercy. Clearly the author has very little familiarity either with the Constitution or the numerous arguments that (1) we have strayed from the plan, and (2) that returning to it might serve the country's interests. For example, why do we have a Department of Labor and a Department of Commerce under the Executive when Article I states that those interests are properly under the Legislative? Why has that basic guarantee of no search without a specific warrant been simply disregarded? These are perfectly legitimate questions, not "worship", and if the author thinks that they may be evaded by reinventing the entire agreement once a generation, he or she badly needs to reconsider.

On the contrary, a return to a form of government described by the Constitution is the very key to reduction of the overall size of government. Where government has exceeded its Constitutional mandate, it may be cut. We already have a plan, a pattern, an agreement, and to insist that it is infinitely negotiable serves to negate every reason for having it in the first place.

The author is simply mistaken, both in appreciation of the motivations of the Tea Parties and in apprehension of what a 200-year-old document serves to offer in the way of contemporary guidance. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is burning incense to the Constitution. It would be sufficient if people would read it.

61 posted on 09/25/2010 4:22:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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That is nothing but sophistry. The premise, that conservatives worship the Constitution, is false. The author also displays a rather profound ignorance of what the Constitution is and what it represents. Which is amazing since the Declaration of Independence clearly spells out what it represents. Our unalienable rights to be freely functioning human beings to the best of our individual abilities.

The Constitution is nothing more than a blueprint for a government, created by us, to protect that which it represents. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our basic human rights. If those things aren't the basics of human life to the author then what ideals or goals does he want to pursue? Spell it out. If he has a better way to secure basic human rights then spell that out.

Ridiculing reverence and reliance on the best plan we have for securing our most basic needs is infantile. Lacking any argument for a better plan or a more basic need of humanity than life and liberty the author is just ranting incoherently. As it stands our Constitution is the only document that has been written that establishes a government for the express purpose of protecting the natural rights of man.

It seems to me that the author isn't making fun of the Constitution's ability to achieve that purpose he's making fun of the purpose itself. If life and liberty aren't worthy of a passionate defense then what is? Equating that passion with idolatry is sophistry.

62 posted on 09/25/2010 4:44:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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That is nothing but sophistry. The premise, that conservatives worship the Constitution, is false. The author also displays a rather profound ignorance of what the Constitution is and what it represents. Which is amazing since the Declaration of Independence clearly spells out what it represents. Our unalienable rights to be freely functioning human beings to the best of our individual abilities.

The Constitution is nothing more than a blueprint for a government, created by us, to protect that which it represents. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our basic human rights. If those things aren't the basics of human life to the author then what ideals or goals does he want to pursue? Spell it out. If he has a better way to secure basic human rights then spell that out.

Ridiculing reverence and reliance on the best plan we have for securing our most basic needs is infantile. Lacking any argument for a better plan or a more basic need of humanity than life and liberty the author is just ranting incoherently. As it stands our Constitution is the only document that has been written that establishes a government for the express purpose of protecting the natural rights of man.

It seems to me that the author isn't making fun of the Constitution's ability to achieve that purpose he's making fun of the purpose itself. If life and liberty aren't worthy of a passionate defense then what is? Equating that passion with idolatry is sophistry.

63 posted on 09/25/2010 4:44:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Defend liberty. Destroy socialism.)
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The Rothschild toadies have spoken.

Now they can shut the hell up.

68 posted on 09/25/2010 7:26:49 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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Anti-constitutional tripe being put forth. Perhaps a link to the current project?


70 posted on 09/25/2010 10:07:20 PM PDT by Don W (I keep some folks' numbers in my 'phone just so I know NOT to answer when they call...)
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Hogwash Alert!

71 posted on 09/25/2010 11:51:32 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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