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Idaho county declares disaster over wolves
ap ^ | September 18, 2010 | JESSIE L. BONNER and JOHN MILLER

Posted on 09/21/2010 8:26:38 PM PDT by george76

Officials in Idaho County want Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter to declare an ongoing disaster that will allow wolves to be shot on sight, citing attacks on livestock and wildlife.

County commissioners declared a local disaster Thursday. The governor's office was aware of the county's move but had not seen it and couldn't immediately comment, said Otter spokesman Jon Hanian.

(Excerpt) Read more at trib.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Washington; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; canadian; canadiangreywolf; esa; graywolves; greywolf; sss; statesrights; wolves
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To: george76
As a former resident of Idaho county and a current resident of Idaho I am totally against the reintroduction of the wolves.

If the nation thinks this is so important than we need to start putting other animals back to their original habitat.

Just read Lewis and Clark's journals and put the elk and grizzlies back on the plains near St Louis where they were. Then maybe the American people would wake up.

21 posted on 09/21/2010 9:06:26 PM PDT by born2bfree
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To: george76

Livestock I can understand, but wildlife? What the hell are the wolves supposed to eat? Tofu?


22 posted on 09/21/2010 9:12:52 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Cuttnhorse

“The entire state should declare itself a wolf disaster area. Last year, in my area of the state, it was the worst elk hunting season that anyone can remember. The so-called experts do not have a clue what the wolf population is.”

Regretfully, I must tell you those bureau-scientists DO know what the wolf population is, the damage their wolves are inflicting on the prey base, and the source of their funding.

The “source of their funding” is the critical clause. Bureau-scientists are AgencyPersons first and scientists second. As AgencyPersons, they live by the core rule of all AgencyPersons in all bureaucracies.

That core belief of the NatureNazi in that Department of Wildlife uniform is: “AGENDA UBER ALLES!”


23 posted on 09/21/2010 9:19:06 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: born2bfree
"put the elk and grizzlies back on the plains near St Louis"

Actually, they are in the planning stages to re-introduce elk not far from St. Louis. Missouri will soon decide whether to reintroduce elk

24 posted on 09/21/2010 9:20:55 PM PDT by buschbaby (Beware! Momma Bear on the prowl. Grrrr)
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To: born2bfree

Help put a mama griz in Washington,2012!


25 posted on 09/21/2010 9:23:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: george76

Wolves are impressive and beautiful animals, but there’s no excuse for allowing them anywhere near populated areas. If we need population control for small animals, there are predators for that which are non a threat to humans, and if we need population control for large animals, nobody does it better than humans with firearms.

I’m more than happy to go to a zoo or predator refuge if I want to be mystified by the majesty of the wolf.


26 posted on 09/21/2010 9:27:49 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: rickomatic

shoot shovel and shut up

Yep- livestock is the rancher’s living.


27 posted on 09/21/2010 9:39:09 PM PDT by handmade
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To: sjmjax
We shouldn't shoot them. Capture them and turn them loose in DC!

Great minds think alike!

28 posted on 09/21/2010 9:47:31 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: george76

How’s this for a small-scale version of this kind of “predator introduction”: In NYC some city EPA officials decided to introduce possums to control the rat population (four legged). Now part of the city is being overrun by possums and the rat problem continues unabated.
This is the problem with bureaucrats calling the shots! They only know that the gray wolf is Canis Lupus! They can’t distinguish between a Canadian Gray, a Mexican Gray or a Western Gray Wolf. They have no concept (or refuse to accept) that the difference can be, on a predatory scale, as great as that between a Pekingese and a Rottweiler. And the ranchers are left to clean up the mess and get stuck with the bill as well!


29 posted on 09/21/2010 9:49:12 PM PDT by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: george76
... an ongoing disaster that will allow wolves to be shot on sight ...

That's just a ruse to keep the Wolf in Chief away ... cause,
as they say in trailer parks everywhere ...

Where lead's a flowin',
This pervert ain't goin'


30 posted on 09/21/2010 9:55:26 PM PDT by Zakeet (Like the wise Wee Wee said, "We can't be broke ... we still have checks in the checkbook.")
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To: buschbaby

“Actually, they are in the planning stages to re-introduce elk not far from St. Louis. Missouri will soon decide whether to reintroduce elk”

Sounds like it is the state making the decision. More power to them if that is what the folks of Missouri want.


31 posted on 09/21/2010 9:57:29 PM PDT by born2bfree
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To: randita

I didn’t bother to purchase a hunting
license last year or this year. There are
many very experienced hunters in town
with all the “toys”. They have been coming
home empty handed. My company has
me on an extended trip to San Diego so
I couldn’t take advantage of a license
anyway.


32 posted on 09/21/2010 10:43:23 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: george76

It might not be related, but my wife says
there have been more mountain lions
around town lately. Perhaps the wolves
have eaten so much that they are looking
for food in city areas.


33 posted on 09/21/2010 10:46:18 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Also mountain lions fear wolf packs...with good reason


34 posted on 09/21/2010 10:51:06 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
the Canadian Grey Wolf, a super sized predator hunting in super sized packs that evolved to chase caribou herds for hundreds of miles.

Inasmuch as I am predisposed to reducing the bulk of these predators to fur coats, genetically, this belief that the wolves introduced into Yellowstone are genetically foreign is a myth; they are the same species. Wolves can double or halve in size in but five generations depending upon environmental conditions, particularly the abundance and quality of food. I have greater objections to the fact that the introduced wolves were carrying hydatid cysts from Echinococcosis granulosus tapeworms (despite agency promises to the contrary) than to their size relative to existing timber wolf packs hundreds of miles away. The reason the packs are large is that up until recently, food has been plentiful. When that is gone and they resort to cannibalism, things will change.

One way or another, large numbers of them need to be hunted down now, if not eradicated until the E. granulosus eggs are gone, which could take 25 years or more. THAT introduction is the real environmental disaster associated with this program.

As to your source, I would take everything Julie Smithson republishes with a serious grain of salt. She is diligent, but totally unqualified to evaluate the integrity of technical research. Stick with guys like George Dovel and Charles Kay.

35 posted on 09/21/2010 10:58:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: george76
The wolves also easily out breed the elk, so the wolf population is exploding.

The problem then seems to be genetics. With our modern science and genetics we just need to breed elk that hunt and have a taste for wolf. Can you imagine a herd of ravenous elk with sharp teeth and their very pointy antlers?

Anyone see those Atlantic Salmon. Larger (about 3 times as big) and hungrier than the native salmon. Picture elk with the same effect.

The wolves wouldn't stand a chance. It would be a massacre for the wolves. Yes nature at it's modified best. Just picture the videos on You Tube...
36 posted on 09/21/2010 11:12:05 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Cuttnhorse

I was working at a site near Salmon, Idaho - about 1994?. They had recently introduced just two wolves I think into the area. It wasn’t too long afterwards that a wolve was found nailed to a telephone pole with a sign that said “Ranchers 1, Wolves 0”.

Amazing how that has changed in just 16 years.


37 posted on 09/21/2010 11:25:37 PM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Thank you.

I will look up George Dovel and Charles Kay.


38 posted on 09/21/2010 11:26:19 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The link in the post I gave you is to one of Dovel’s articles. It is excellent.


39 posted on 09/21/2010 11:33:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: 21twelve

Did they run out of nails? Sounds like
time to restock.


40 posted on 09/21/2010 11:42:31 PM PDT by Myrddin
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