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Paul Krugman: Slap Tariffs On China, And Let Them Stop Buying Our Debt
Business Insider ^ | 09/14/2010 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 09/14/2010 4:21:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In his latest NYT op-ed, Paul Krugman takes a break from worrying about the GOP and spending to return to another one of his big issues -- Chinese currency manipulation.

Japan's leaders, he notes, have rightfully been concerned about Chinese debt buying, and the effect that has on pushing up the yen (thus killing exports), and he wonders why we can't get the same level of outrage here.

Basically, there are two reasons why American leaders are too scared to slap a tariff on China and penalize them for this kind of manipulation.

The first is that they're worried China will stop buying our debt. The second is that they're worried about retribution towards American companies in China.

It's actually the second one that's more interesting.

As for China not buying our debt, well... they're already paring back their holdings, but between our Fed, and the global savings boom, it just hasn't been much of an issue. Yields are very close to their all time lows despite China clearly losing its appetite for USTs. And to the extent that Chinese selling of bonds would hurt the dollar then, well, obviously to Krugman that'd be a good thing.

As for this issue of whether American companies doing business in China will see diminished opportunities, that plays into a much bigger theme, namely the crisis of confidence in the future of the Chinese market. Several business execs have warned about this -- that China just isn't as exciting of a place to be as they thought it would be. Already the government there hasn't been "pro business" in the way they'd like it to be.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; debt; paulkrugman; tariffs
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1 posted on 09/14/2010 4:21:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is dizzying. He seems to just come up with whatever he thinks will get some action on his silly blog—oh, wait, he closed the comments on that, didn’t he?


2 posted on 09/14/2010 4:22:33 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: Darkwolf377
This guy is dizzying.

He's an idiot. 15-20 years of leftist tripe in the NYT and other syndicated newspapers. Virtually everything he puts in print is the opposite of what needs to happen.

3 posted on 09/14/2010 4:26:27 AM PDT by meyer (Tax the productive to carry the freeloaders - What is it with democrats and slavery?)
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To: meyer

I find him amusing. He thinks he’s so smart and everyone else is an idiot for not listening to him. He doesn’t realize everyone regards him as a weird little troll.


4 posted on 09/14/2010 4:30:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: meyer
Paul is just plain wrong. Put down the pipe, maybe wash out the bong Paul. Everything you say sounds stupid, uninformed, dangerous
5 posted on 09/14/2010 4:31:12 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: SeekAndFind

What a DOPE!

We should be thrilled that ANY country wants to buy our debt. Soon enough China will STOP. They are buying as little as possible of our debt to keep that value UP of their debt bought in better days. They KNOW NOT TO BUY MORE. The U.S. is SINKING and they are getting off the economic Titanic.


6 posted on 09/14/2010 4:33:03 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SeekAndFind

Krugman is a silly clown.


7 posted on 09/14/2010 4:33:30 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: SeekAndFind
Dd it ever occur to this sorry excuse for a human being, that to STOP EPENDING would greatly help our country and let U.S. pay down our OWN DEBT?
8 posted on 09/14/2010 4:34:10 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SeekAndFind
Slapping a tariff on imports is insane even if there would be no retribution.

You would think Krugman would know how Smoot-Hawley crushed the economy. But you'd be wrong.

9 posted on 09/14/2010 4:40:06 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A certified Nutkook socialist.


10 posted on 09/14/2010 4:41:50 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: SeekAndFind

The third reason is that the Federal Reserve is on record as being a manipulator of the U.S. dollar and encouraging other central banks to manipulate it too.


11 posted on 09/14/2010 4:43:55 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s an idea. Balance the budget and then we don’t have to worry about selling our debt ever again.


12 posted on 09/14/2010 4:46:01 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: SeekAndFind

It is long past time for the American right, to stop drinking the “free trade” kool-aid.

“Free trade” is neither free, nor trade.

It is a one-way sellout of our country. The destruction of our entire way of life. For the selfish benefit of a few.

It is treason.


13 posted on 09/14/2010 4:48:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (posting handle made more sense, back before CNN became obama's shoe-shine stand...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul Krugman: Slap Tariffs On China, And Let Them Stop Buying Our Debt

Like most Progressive Fascists Democrats, this guy is intellectually incoherent. On the one hand he argues the US needs much more stimulus spending by the Feds but on the other hand worries about the Chinese holding too much debt. Those 2 positions are utterly incompatible intellectually.

14 posted on 09/14/2010 4:49:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: agere_contra

From future.state.gov:

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff was more a consequence of the onset of the Great Depression than an initial cause. But while the tariff might not have caused the Depression, it certainly did not make it any better. It provoked a storm of foreign retaliatory measures and came to stand as a symbol of the “beggar-thy-neighbor” policies (policies designed to improve one’s own lot at the expense of that of others) of the 1930s. Such policies contributed to a drastic decline in international trade. For example, U.S. imports from Europe declined from a 1929 high of $1,334 million to just $390 million in 1932, while U.S. exports to Europe fell from $2,341 million in 1929 to $784 million in 1932. Overall, world trade declined by some 66% between 1929 and 1934. More generally, Smoot-Hawley did nothing to foster trust and cooperation among nations in either the political or economic realm during a perilous era in international relations.

It took till 1834 to get rid of Smoot-Hawley.


15 posted on 09/14/2010 4:52:00 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Smoot-Hawley was bad for America, because we were an EXPORTING NATION then.

We were the nation, running the huge trade surplus.

We were the nation, with the largest manufacturing base in the history of the world.

America built, sold and invented almost everything then.

Now. We do none of that. That is the difference. We no longer have anything to lose.

Because we already gave it all away... Our factories. Our technology. Our money.

All of it. Gone.


16 posted on 09/14/2010 4:55:28 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (posting handle made more sense, back before CNN became obama's shoe-shine stand...)
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To: MNJohnnie
If China (or Japan) does not buy our debt - who will? The Fed, that's who, and they'll create the "credit" to do so out of thin air. And what would be the macroeconomic effect of monetizing the over one trillion dollars in debt created just since January? Got any answers for that, Pauly Walnuts?
17 posted on 09/14/2010 4:57:47 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

All of it. Gone.

Not quite.

Ag exports are huge.


18 posted on 09/14/2010 5:05:46 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Even in a trade war - the world has to eat.


19 posted on 09/14/2010 5:10:29 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (posting handle made more sense, back before CNN became obama's shoe-shine stand...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The ferret comes out of the burrow, says something stupid, and goes back in.


20 posted on 09/14/2010 5:11:31 AM PDT by libh8er
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