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1 posted on 09/10/2010 5:59:43 PM PDT by Kaslin
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These people are going to take us back to the stone age.


2 posted on 09/10/2010 6:11:06 PM PDT by wendy1946
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I have my own little supply of planet-raping light bulbs tucked away.

Sometimes I see a display of CFLs at the store and I'm so tempted to knock them over and wait for the Hazmat team to show up.

3 posted on 09/10/2010 6:12:12 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Kaslin

Those eco-friendly death-inducing fragile, poisonous bulbs will never see the interior or exterior of my home. LED bulbs are a different animal and probably safer and even more eco-friendly.


4 posted on 09/10/2010 6:12:36 PM PDT by bsaunders
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To: Kaslin

It’s Tesla’s revenge.


5 posted on 09/10/2010 6:13:50 PM PDT by windsorknot
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I have been stashing incandescents along side my ammo for a couple of years... I made a special trip to Lowes and purchased 96 more today after reading about the GE shutdown...

I should be good until the LEDs are up to speed. The CFL’s have not lived up to the hype, some with significant shorter lifespans than the incandescents; two of them blew out at the base.


7 posted on 09/10/2010 6:24:11 PM PDT by CenTex (My ammunition pile is growing...)
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*Sigh.* Just think of our grandmothers, who had to deal with sooty, smelly oil lamps and woodstoves, grime in their houses and the dangers of fire ... problems solved by rural electrification. (Not to mention the beauties of modern appliances that saved time and labor ... refrigeration, hot water, electric stoves ...)

I guess a few more women and children dying in house fires in fly-over country will be OK if we save the planet.


9 posted on 09/10/2010 6:48:56 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Kaslin

I’m hoping the Vu1 lighting technology will be a good alternative.

http://vu1corporation.com/


13 posted on 09/10/2010 7:14:37 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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From eHOW:

Age-Related Macular Degeneration

Age-related macular degeneration (AMD) is the most common cause of “irreversible, functional blindness” in the young and shows up as severe blurring of the central vision. It used to be called “senile macular degeneration” because it mostly affected people in their 70s and 80s. However, scientists renamed it after it popped up in younger people. Unfortunately, this disease often is not apparent until decades after it starts injuring the eyes.

Fluorescent Light

The use of fluorescent lights in lamps did not begin until 1939, and the people now losing their sight to AMD are the first generation to grow up under fluorescent lights in school. Fluorescent lights are an ultraviolet (UV) light/blue light. Studies show that the blue end of the light spectrum may contribute to retinal damage and may cause AMD. UV light also destroys photoreceptors and debris then builds up in the retina. This debris forms deposits that accumulate in the epithelium. The rate of this accumulation may be related to the retina's exposure to UV light and all of this may eventually cause AMD.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_6849818_fluorescent-lights-toddler-eyesight.html

14 posted on 09/10/2010 7:59:21 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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We still have time, though, before the lights go out. Our phase-out doesn't begin until Jan. 1, 2012 — coincidentally an election year. When New Zealand faced a similar ban two years ago, it became an election issue for the National Party, at the time in the minority against the ruling Labour government.

In November 2008, the newly elected National Party overturned the light-bulb ban. This should make a light go on over the heads of GOP strategists seeking another issue against the nanny state. How about standing for light, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

Q. - Is the GOP smart enough to throw this into the elections mix?

A. - No.

18 posted on 09/11/2010 5:09:51 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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19 posted on 09/12/2010 8:42:23 AM PDT by raptor22 (The truth will set us free)
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Example of FedGov waste.

http://www.loseyourexcuse.gov/index.html#/index


21 posted on 09/12/2010 8:54:11 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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What’s going to happen to oven bulbs, for example? It’s vital for people hatching chicks to have heat bulbs, not to mention those folks who install light bulbs in barns or kennels to keep animals warm in winter. What will people keep in chandeliers?


22 posted on 09/12/2010 9:16:00 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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25 posted on 09/12/2010 12:10:29 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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We can only hope that our nation notices the consequences suffered by the EU due to this decision.

Recall the consequences of the morning sickness drug, Thalidomide. I’m sure there were many who lamented how the U.S. was not as “Progressive” as the Europeans.


28 posted on 09/12/2010 8:33:15 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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31 posted on 09/13/2010 6:50:25 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Kaslin

How Innovation Killed the Lights

By Peter Whoriskey

Washington Post

09/10/2010 WINCHESTER, Va. — The last major GE factory making ordinary incandescent light bulbs in the United States is closing this month, marking a small, sad exit for a product and company that can trace their roots to Thomas Alva Edison’s innovations in the 1870s.

The remaining 200 workers at the Winchester plant will lose their jobs.

“Now what’re we going to do?” said Toby Savolainen, 49, who like many others worked for decades at the factory, making bulbs now deemed wasteful.

During the recession, political and business leaders held out the promise that American advances, particularly in green technology, might stem the decades-long decline in U.S. manufacturing jobs. But as the lighting industry shows, even when the government pushes companies toward environmental innovations and Americans come up with them, the manufacture of the next-generation technology can still end up overseas.

What made the GE plant vulnerable was, in part, a 2007 energy conservation measure passed by Congress that set standards essentially banning ordinary incandescents by 2014. The law will force millions of American households to switch to more efficient bulbs.

The resulting savings in energy and greenhouse-gas emissions are expected to be immense. But the move also had unintended consequences.

Rather than setting off a boom in the U.S. manufacture of replacement lights, the leading replacement lights are compact fluorescents, or CFLs, which are made almost entirely overseas, mostly in China.

Consisting of glass tubes twisted into a spiral, they require more hand labor, which is cheaper there. So though they were first developed by American engineers in the 1970s, none of the major brands make CFLs in the United States.

“Everybody’s jumping on the green bandwagon,” said Pat Doyle, 54, who has worked at the plant for 26 years. But “we’ve been sold out. First sold out by the government. Then sold out by GE.”

Doyle was speaking after a shift last month surrounded by several co-workers around a picnic table near the punch clock. Many of the workers have been at the plant for decades, and most appeared to be in their 40s and 50s. Several worried aloud about finding another job.

“When you’re 50 years old, no one wants you,” Savolainen said. It was meant half in jest, but some of the men nod grimly.

If there is a green bandwagon, as Doyle says, much of the Obama administration is on board. As a means of creating U.S. jobs, the administration has been promoting the nation’s “green economy” — solar power, electric cars, wind turbines — with the idea that U.S. innovations in those fields may translate into U.S. factories. President Barack Obama said last month that he expects the government’s commitment to clean energy to lead to more than 800,000 jobs by 2012, one step in a larger journey planned to restore U.S. manufacturing.

Manufacturing shrinks

But officials are working against a daunting trend. Under the pressures of globalization, the number of manufacturing jobs in the United States has been shrinking for decades, from 19.5 million in 1979 to 11.6 million this year, a decline of 40 percent.

At textile mills in North Carolina, at auto parts plants in Ohio, at other assorted manufacturing plants around the country, the closures have pushed workers out, often leaving them to face an onslaught of personal defeats: lower wages, community college retraining and unemployment checks.

In Obama’s vision, the nation’s mastery of new technology will create American manufacturing jobs.

“See, when folks lift up the hoods on the cars of the future, I want them to see engines stamped ‘Made in America,’ “ Obama said in an August speech at a Wisconsin plant. “When new batteries to store solar power come off the line, I want to see printed on the side, ‘Made in America.’ When new technologies are developed and new industries are formed, I want them made right here in America. That’s what we’re fighting for.”

But a closer look at the lighting industry reveals that isn’t going to be easy.

At one time, the United States was ahead of the game in CFLs.

Following the 1973 energy crisis, a GE engineer named Ed Hammer and others at the company’s famed Nela Park research laboratories were tinkering with different methods of saving electricity with fluorescent lights.

Innovation at GE

In a standard incandescent bulb, in which the filament is electrified until it glows, only about 10 percent of the electricity is transformed into light; the rest generates heat as a side effect. A typical fluorescent uses about 75 percent less electricity than an incandescent to produce the same amount of light.

The trouble facing Hammer was that fluorescents are most efficient in long tubes. But long, linear tubes don’t fit into the same lamp fixtures that the standard incandescent bulbs do.

Working with a team of talented glass blowers, though, Hammer twisted the tubes into a spiral. The new lamps had length, but were also more compact.

“I knew it was a good lamp design,” he recalled recently. In retrospect, in fact, it was a key innovation. The Smithsonian houses Hammer’s original spiral CFL prototype.

At the time, however, the design had one big problem. Bending all that glass into the required shape was slow and required lots of manual labor.

“I used to say you would need 40,000 glass blowers to make the parts,” Hammer said. “Without automation, it was economically unfeasible. It was a lamp before its time.”

The company decided to make investments in other types of lighting then being developed.

Years passed. The next major innovator to try his hand at CFLs was Ellis Yan, a Chinese immigrant to the United States, who had started his own lighting business in China and then in the early ‘90s turned his attention to the possibilities of CFLs.

To make CFLs, he had workers in China sit beside furnaces and bend the glass by hand. Even with the low-wages there, the first attempts were very expensive, clunky and flickered when turned on, he said. But he persisted.

“Everybody in the industry stayed back and was watching me,” he recalled. “No one else wanted to make the big investment for the next generation of technology.”

Prospering in China

The business prospered and Yan’s factories in China employed as many as 14,000 — not so far off from the 40,000 glass blowers that Hammer had once imagined would be necessary. With new automation techniques, Yan is seeking to cut the number of his employees in China, where wages are rising, to 5,000 by year’s end.

Today, about a quarter of the lights sold in the United States are CFLs, according to NEMA, an industry association. Of those, Yan says, he manufactures more than half.

Someday soon, Yan says, he hopes to build a U.S. factory, though he so far has been unable to secure $12.5 million in government funding for the project.

Manufacturing in the United States would add 10 percent or more to the cost of building a standard CFL, he said, but retailers have indicated that there is a demand for products manufactured domestically.

“Retailers tell me people ask for ‘Made in the USA,’ “ Yan said. “I tell them the product will cost 45 to 50 cents more. They say people will pay for it.”

Sales of the CFLs began slowly, but they spiked in 2006 and 2007, when federal and state government efforts promoted their use.

The Energy Department teamed with Walt Disney Co. to develop a public service announcement based on the Disney Pixar film “Ratatouille” to encourage the adoption of technologies such as CFLs. It was shown on CNN, HGTV and the Food Network.

Lawmakers in California and Nevada drafted legislation calling for higher efficiency standards for light bulbs. And in December 2007, Congress passed its new energy standards.

GE balked at the standards at first, knowing that they could impact their U.S. manufacturing. But the company also saw that with restrictions gaining momentum in more states and other countries, some kind of legislation was unavoidable. They decided to support the bill as long as it didn’t amount to a ban on traditional incandescents, but instead simply set energy standards.

“We obviously pointed out to legislators that the impact of an outright ban would be the elimination of some manufacturing operations,” said Earl Jones, senior counsel in government relations and regulatory compliance at the company. “But it was inevitable that some kind of legislation would be coming to the U.S.”

As expected, the new standards hurt the business in traditional incandescents.

The company developed a plan to see what it would take to retrofit a plant that makes traditional incandescents into one that makes CFLs. Even with a $40 million investment and automation, the disparity in wages and other factors made it uneconomical. The new plant’s CFLs would have cost about 50 percent more than those from China, GE officials said.

The company also makes halogen light bulbs, which are an innovative type of incandescent, and Sylvania is transforming its incandescent light bulb factory in St. Marys, Pa., to halogen as well.

But the era of traditional incandescents built in the United States was coming to an end.

WINCHESTER, Va. — The last major GE factory making ordinary incandescent light bulbs in the United States is closing this month, marking a small, sad exit for a product and company that can trace their roots to Thomas Alva Edison’s innovations in the 1870s.

The remaining 200 workers at the Winchester plant will lose their jobs.

“Now what’re we going to do?” said Toby Savolainen, 49, who like many others worked for decades at the factory, making bulbs now deemed wasteful.

During the recession, political and business leaders held out the promise that American advances, particularly in green technology, might stem the decades-long decline in U.S. manufacturing jobs. But as the lighting industry shows, even when the government pushes companies toward environmental innovations and Americans come up with them, the manufacture of the next-generation technology can still end up overseas.

What made the GE plant vulnerable was, in part, a 2007 energy conservation measure passed by Congress that set standards essentially banning ordinary incandescents by 2014. The law will force millions of American households to switch to more efficient bulbs.

The resulting savings in energy and greenhouse-gas emissions are expected to be immense. But the move also had unintended consequences.

Rather than setting off a boom in the U.S. manufacture of replacement lights, the leading replacement lights are compact fluorescents, or CFLs, which


33 posted on 09/13/2010 7:15:58 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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How to Hoard Incandescent Light Bulbs

Alas - the push is on! By 2014, incandescent bulbs will probably no longer be available in the United States. Incandescent bulbs use more watts than the newer, more expensive and more efficient compact flourescent and LED bulbs, and government regulations have put the lovely, warm light of our childhoods on the endangered species list. But don’t despair, it’s easy to buy up incandescent bulbs, and build a stock of them that will last years.

Difficulty: Easy

Instructions

Things You’ll Need:

* A resourceful attitude
* A little extra money to spend
* A cool, dry place to store light bulbs

1

Think about the areas of your home that benefit from the warmth and beauty of incandescent light. These areas are likely to be the bathroom, the bedroom, and the kitchen. Anywhere that needs to be romantic, sensual, or pleasing to the eye. These are the rooms you need to stock up incandescent 60-100 watt light bulbs for.

2

Stop into the discount stores and ‘dollar stores’ in your area. These are great places to find inexpensive incandescent light bulbs. Buy them up. Though their manufacture is rapidly being sent offshore to cheaper labor markets, incandescent bulbs are still being made here. Some of what you spend will still go to American workers.

3

Check in at big box retail stores like Target, Walmart and Kmart. Incandescent bulbs can be found there as well.

4

Go online to your favorite search engine and type in 60-watt incandescent. Order them in bulk from a site you trust.

5

Once you’ve built a stash of these light bulbs, keep them in a safe place, and avoid moving them or jostling them, as their filaments are fragile. It costs very little to buy them.

6

Pay your higher electric bill with pleasure. At least with incandescent light, your skin tones won’t be green or gray, and you won’t get headaches from the strobing effect of flourescent light!

Read more: How to Hoard Incandescent Light Bulbs | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/print/how_5881518_hoard-incandescent-light-bulbs.html#ixzz11Ue6pLqW


41 posted on 10/05/2010 7:24:37 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Kaslin; OrangeHoof; CenTex; sneakers; Jim from C-Town; BobL; KeyLargo

You can get incandescent light bulbs rated for 25,000 hours that are used by the hospitality industry. If you use them for an average of 7 hours a day they’ll burn out in just a little under 10 years and cost about a buck or less per bulb depending on how many you buy.

https://www.nathosp.com/product/25k19_c/standard_incandescent_light_bulbs

Once you stock up all you’ll have to do is watch out for the light bulb police who’ll be monitoring everyone who might be using those unauthorized, evil incandescents!


42 posted on 01/01/2011 8:26:00 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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