Posted on 09/09/2010 10:21:48 PM PDT by george76
Overall, the GOP has fielded more than 30 African-American candidates for federal office, including Ryan Frazier in Colorado's Seventh Congressional District and Vernon Parker in Arizona's Third Congressional District.
And as the economy loses steam, and President Obama's poll numbers sag, the ultimate humiliation in this summer of Democratic discontent is to find Republicans trumpeting 2010 as "The Year of the Black Republicans."
A trend with historic rootsThis trend defies modern identity politics. In the 2008 election, 95 percent of black voters chose Obama. Yet the attraction between blacks and the Republican Party is not so strange as it seems.
For a century after emancipation in 1863, black voters routinely lined up behind the Republican Party as the party of Abraham Lincoln, the Great Emancipator.
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Charlotte Bergman http://www.charlottebergmann.com/, took 61% of the GOP primary vote for the US 9th District, Memphis, TN. She goes up against the 2 term incumbent white male Steve Cohen, an Obambi butt kisser. Cohen says he votes like a black woman. BUT HE WON’T DEBATE THIS BLACK WOMAN.
>> I don’t know what the Democrats promised blacks for the 1936 election that totally and permanently reversed their entire voting history<<
It was FDR’s New Deal. It was high taxes on all but huge giveaways to the poor. It set maximum hours worked, minimum wages and lots of help for the poor.
It hurt the blacks a lot because when the TVA was set up it took huge tracks of land that had been black share croppers who didn’t get anything for the land but set them up as wards of the state basically.
Do a search and learn as much as you can about the New Deal and how it really hurt the blacks and why Obama has FDR as his hero. Both FDR and Obama will hurt the minorities more than any other group ultimately.
I believe that Obama would have to wreak much more havoc and damage than he's doing, to snap most blacks out of their Pavlovian conditioning.
That being said, I do believe that he's waking up a growing (but small) percentage of blacks who have never questioned the Democrat party in their entire lives.
May that percentage continue to grow.
I would rather you do the search and show me how it explains what I pointed out in post 11 and 19.
Why were blacks the only ones that were grabbed so thoroughly, completely, and permanently, and why did they quit voting like Protestants from that moment forward (except for 1932 when Protestants voted for FDR and blacks stayed Republican)?
Post 42 mentions what will be a big portion of it, or at least the catalyst, but as post 44 describes, there is clearly something more to the story, it is still unique to blacks.
“All that only makes the Republican-to-Democrat turnaround in the black vote from 1932 to 1936 more surprising, and I’ll be interested to see what you find!”
A little thing called the Great Depression.
Read posts 11 and 19, and 42.
Even a broken clock...
By the way, that quote in your post is not from me, it was to me, that should always be pointed out so that other readers don’t get a poster’s words and point of view mixed up with others.
Not saying Ms. McCain is wrong about Steele but the public insult accomplishes nothing but has the potential to push Black voters further away.
I have a friend who called and proudly announced, “I’ve finally received my Doctorate of Divinity”, I asked what flavor, peppermint, chocolate or strawberry. He hung up on me. His wife called back saying he got the hiccups, laughing laughing so hard.
There was no New Deal in 1932. The blacks were a large part of the poor community but were still largely connected to the Republicans because it was the Republican party who was instrumental in freeing the slaves in the first place. That’s initially where the Republicans gained the following of the blacks. The blacks were now free and many of them were share croppers who had at least gained the rights to “work for themselves” and see the chance to advance. FDR, because the downturn in the economy because of the crash of 1929 gained power by giving promises that had not been given before. He was actually elected with the “Hope and Change” attitude, believe it or not. (sound familiar?)
FDR took office in 1933 and launched what was called his “First Hundred Days”. He had a mostly Democratic congress and pushed through major legislation and issued many executive orders which started programs to produce many government jobs to the unemployed. His programs of regulating Wall Street, banks, and transportation helped many in the black community get jobs. He also started the Social Security system in 1935.
Basically his total package called the “New Deal” developed a class of people who were dependent on the government for subsistance both through government jobs and social welfare. Because the blacks were a large part of the poor class because they hadn’t yet advanced from being slaves to totally self sufficient he gained their support.
The last thing that happened to turn the blacks from Republican support to Democrat (and I think the “key” that you are looking for) was that in 1937 a deep depression started because of FDR’s programs and there was a bipartisan coalition that formed with Republican majority influence. When the War started unemployment dropped and the bipartisan coalition forced the end to many of the relief programs which impacted the blacks to a greater extent then others because they had been the major recipients of the relief program.
Unfortunately, because they began to rely on the relief effort they became dependent on the government. From that point on the Democrats have worked to keep them as a dependent class while the Republicans typically want freedom to advance on ones own.
Not exactly, we all recognize your narrative, but it doesn't explain, "why only blacks" and why did blacks quit voting like Protestants?
>> we all recognize your narrative, but it doesn’t explain, “why only blacks” and why did blacks quit voting like Protestants?<<
Only blacks? I don’t think it was only blacks nor is that what I said. I said “predominantly blacks” and I believe that to be true. The blacks had for years and years been controlled to the extent that they were allowed to make very few decisions for themselves. When they were freed they left with very few resources including the experience or knowledge of how to exist in a free enterprise world.
Because it was the Republicans who were predominantly the cause of the end of slavery they, the blacks, were “beholden” to them. But when FDR during a severe downturn in the economy promised to develop a system of help for the poor, the blacks and other poor, overwhelmingly supported the “hope and change” attitude that FDR preached. It ultimately hurt them by developing that old slavery mentality of not having to depend only on themselves which persists still today. Not just among the blacks but many of the poorer class.
As for the Protestant supposition, I don’t think ones faith is the only criteria. You can look in many Protestant communities and find those who vote Democrat. Some because they, under a false sense of guilt, think the “helping the poor” mantra of the Democrats is a good thing regardless of their ethnic background. That should not be a responsibility of the government but should be the responsibility of the Church. I think when one is poor the hope of help overrides their faith to a certain extent. That could be, and I believe is, the reason that the poor, with the black community being a large percentage of that population, turned to the Democrats who promised hope to them. It was at that point that the class of dependence on government became entrenched in the Democratic party.
This is starting to get really good.
All I can do is refer you to post 53 and all of my other posts, I don’t see the question being answered.
Why were blacks the only ones that were grabbed so thoroughly, completely, and permanently, and why did they quit voting like Protestants from that moment forward (except for 1932 when Protestants voted for FDR and blacks stayed Republican)? There is nothing comparable to this.
I’ll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Until the black shift is seen as absolutely unique, and one of a kind, then the answers to why cannot be found.
By the way, that quote in your post is not from me, it was to me, that should always be pointed out so that other readers don’t get a poster’s words and point of view mixed up with others.
Sorry ‘bout that!
From your lips to God’s ears. Things are transitioning for blacks in America with regard to party affiliation. I look at it as similar to the blue collar Democrats like my grandparents, who were conservative, church-going, family first people. They always voted Dem. because it was the thing to do - they were from the east coast and always worked as laborers in textiles or paper factories. My Grandfather changed when Ronald Reagan came along. The last Dem President he truly admired was JFK.
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